Early: You folks are all insane. Simon: Well, my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

'Objects In Space'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2009 4:43:58 pm PST #4420 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, the angels have been acting out. They have some sort of free will. But I can see why their lockstep makes them obsessive about Sam and Dean and the idea that they are fated to play out a pattern paralleling them. And why they're blind to what humanity has always had over them and the wrench it might throw in things.

They're all very convinced of the inevitability of events, even though each angel sees something different. Sam and Dean see things they have to try to change, not steps they have to retread. They don't know what or how, and that's probably what saves the world, if not them.

Man I will be sad when Ackles isn't on my screen anymore. For some reason I'm pessimistic about him getting to flex the acting chops in the same way. Like Enver Gjokaj. I feel more sue JP will be okay.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 20, 2009 4:59:03 pm PST #4421 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

While I was satisfied with their being allowed to go out in a blaze of glory by their own choice, perhaps one element is that the specific threat they died stopping were goon-level minions who seemed to have no specific purpose other than being sicced on Our Heroes? It did strike me that hellhounds are a fairly bush league threat compared to prior confrontations Ellen has survived against the Second Horseman and Azazel, and their inclusion rather than the usual possessed thugs (who can be exorcised) seemed tailored to ensure that someone had to make that last stand.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2009 5:03:51 pm PST #4422 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The hellhounds scare Dean. They might be lesser than demons or the like, but we've seen the horror they can wreak.


Amy - Nov 20, 2009 5:04:32 pm PST #4423 of 30002
Because books.

To me, though, it doesn't matter what the battle is, it's that they're choosing to fight. Sure, the circumstances fell out in a less than apocalypse-right-now-ish way, but they had already chosen to join the Winchesters in this fight. And it's not insignificant to me that, given their history with them, this is a battle they wanted in on anyway.


P.M. Marc - Nov 20, 2009 5:08:54 pm PST #4424 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It did strike me that hellhounds are a fairly bush league threat compared to prior confrontations Ellen has survived against the Second Horseman and Azazel, and their inclusion rather than the usual possessed thugs (who can be exorcised) seemed tailored to ensure that someone had to make that last stand.

I don't see them as bush league, though. We've seen hellhounds target at people very rarely, and usually fatally, with the fatalities including Dean, as ita references. They're not smart or cunning, but they're effective and tenacious.


Amy - Nov 20, 2009 5:09:56 pm PST #4425 of 30002
Because books.

They're not smart or cunning, but they're effective and tenacious.

They also don't forget your scent. You can't throw them off for long, I guess.


P.M. Marc - Nov 20, 2009 5:18:46 pm PST #4426 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah. They're like bloodhounds crossed with sharks! You can't reason with them or trick them, for they are MINDLESS KILLING MACHINES! MWAHAHAHAHAHA! BLOODHOUNDS! SHARKS! WITH FRICKIN' LASER BEAMS!

Ahem.

In some respects, I think an enemy that isn't thinking is scarier than a thinking one.


Amy - Nov 20, 2009 5:21:29 pm PST #4427 of 30002
Because books.

In some respects, I think an enemy that isn't thinking is scarier than a thinking one.

Oh, I agree.

Hey! In S6, they could fight SHARKS WITH FRICKIN' LASER BEAMS ON THEIR HEADS!


P.M. Marc - Nov 20, 2009 5:22:33 pm PST #4428 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

They could! In shagadelic costumes!


Amy - Nov 20, 2009 5:24:22 pm PST #4429 of 30002
Because books.

Dean asking if people are horny would not be out of the realm of believability, either.