You've got my support. Just think of me as...as your... You know, I'm searching for 'supportive things' and I'm coming up all bras.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Nov 20, 2009 5:21:29 pm PST #4427 of 30002
Because books.

In some respects, I think an enemy that isn't thinking is scarier than a thinking one.

Oh, I agree.

Hey! In S6, they could fight SHARKS WITH FRICKIN' LASER BEAMS ON THEIR HEADS!


P.M. Marc - Nov 20, 2009 5:22:33 pm PST #4428 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

They could! In shagadelic costumes!


Amy - Nov 20, 2009 5:24:22 pm PST #4429 of 30002
Because books.

Dean asking if people are horny would not be out of the realm of believability, either.


Polter-Cow - Nov 20, 2009 5:28:28 pm PST #4430 of 30002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

In S6, they could fight SHARKS WITH FRICKIN' LASER BEAMS ON THEIR HEADS!

Ha ha ha ha.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2009 5:29:51 pm PST #4431 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Once Jo was mortally wounded, I wonder if Dean regretted his end-of-the-world seduction schtick. He definitely regretted a lot.


Amy - Nov 20, 2009 5:35:20 pm PST #4432 of 30002
Because books.

I would imagine so. Especially given the way he kissed her forehead first.

I loved that Jo said no to him -- that crush was obviously long outgrown.


P.M. Marc - Nov 20, 2009 5:44:31 pm PST #4433 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I basically agree with almost everything said here: [link]

And the thing for me is this: I think the show gets gender issue demerits *all over the place* in the generalized sense, but in *this specific instance* it doesn't with Jo and Ellen. (My gender irritations were all Meg-related in this episode.)


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2009 5:55:14 pm PST #4434 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, that's basically my POV. If you're not Sam and Dean, you're fodder for their misery. Hell, if you're Sam XOR Dean you're fodder. You just get to come back because your name's above the fold. Or if you're the car.


Amy - Nov 20, 2009 5:56:40 pm PST #4435 of 30002
Because books.

All the characters who aren't Sam and Dean are going to be devices. Which means all the women in it are going to be devices. But they picked the structure (a tragedy) and the lead characters (Sam and Dean) and now they're committing to telling that story.

The above is from the link. That's pretty much what I've always believed about the show, and it's why I've had a hard time understanding the unhappiness about Jo and Ellen, for instance, not having larger roles.


Fay - Nov 20, 2009 6:02:30 pm PST #4436 of 30002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Amy Berg, Leverage writer, watched last night's SPN for Mark Sheppard and fell for Misha and wants to cast him, she tweeted. Misha says anytime.

Awesome!

...any chance we can get her to watch Dollhouse and cast Enver, y'think?

(And I agree that I don't feel very hopeful about JA's mad acting chops getting the recognition they deserve once this project's over. He's just so distractingly pretty that it seems that casting people have him pigeonholed as Just A Pretty FAce - I mean, his movie outings seem to have been very so-so, afaik? If he were more cocksure and less serious & reticent, he might be able to make them register that he's a character actor, but...ah well. Fingers crossed for the guy. (Although, really, I'd love to see him doing more theatre for a bit. Not that I'd get to go watch him, so, y'know, kind of a dumb thing for me to wish for him, I suppose.)