Meep!
Dreg: Glory, Your Most Fresh-And-Cleanness. It's only a matter of time-- Glory: Ugh, everything always takes time! What about my time? Does anyone appreciate I'm on a schedule here?! Tick tock, Dreg! Tick freakin' tock!
'Sleeper'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.
brenda m - Nov 20, 2009 3:54:04 pm PST #4412 of 30002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Amy - Nov 20, 2009 3:54:53 pm PST #4413 of 30002
Because books.
Awesome!
-t - Nov 20, 2009 3:59:06 pm PST #4414 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Oooh
Morgana - Nov 20, 2009 4:33:12 pm PST #4415 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
The boys are being told over and over again how parallel their stories are to Michael's and Lucifer's, and can't they see they MUST follow the same road as Michael and Lucifer? However, one thing is glaringly different: Whereas Lucifer and Michael's relationship seems irrevocably severed, Sam and Dean have overcome what separated them and are united again in common purpose.
Also, as far as I know, angels don't have free will. They are bound to follow God's directive, or which fate is laid out for them. Mankind does possess free will. Therefore Sam and Dean have the option of making their own choices about which roads to follow.
Lee - Nov 20, 2009 4:33:54 pm PST #4416 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
WHEEE
Morgana - Nov 20, 2009 4:37:47 pm PST #4417 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
Wheee??
P.M. Marc - Nov 20, 2009 4:39:33 pm PST #4418 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Because I am finding myself frustrated and feeling like I'm talking at cross purposes with people, for those of you who do not think that Jo and Ellen's deaths were deaths with agency (which is I think a completely separate issue from the overall treatment of women on Supernatural, by the by), what is your reasoning? Because I'm just not getting it. They went out fighting, not as passive victims.
I keep going back to D'Argo in PKW, or Doyle in Angel, or Vasquez and Gorman, or any fatally wounded character in a war movie who stays behind to cover the exits.
Amy - Nov 20, 2009 4:40:41 pm PST #4419 of 30002
Because books.
Perkins was responding to ita's post, Morgana, not yours.
I can't help Plei, because I think Jo and Ellen made all their own choices in this episode.
§ ita § - Nov 20, 2009 4:43:58 pm PST #4420 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Well, the angels have been acting out. They have some sort of free will. But I can see why their lockstep makes them obsessive about Sam and Dean and the idea that they are fated to play out a pattern paralleling them. And why they're blind to what humanity has always had over them and the wrench it might throw in things.
They're all very convinced of the inevitability of events, even though each angel sees something different. Sam and Dean see things they have to try to change, not steps they have to retread. They don't know what or how, and that's probably what saves the world, if not them.
Man I will be sad when Ackles isn't on my screen anymore. For some reason I'm pessimistic about him getting to flex the acting chops in the same way. Like Enver Gjokaj. I feel more sue JP will be okay.
Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 20, 2009 4:59:03 pm PST #4421 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
While I was satisfied with their being allowed to go out in a blaze of glory by their own choice, perhaps one element is that the specific threat they died stopping were goon-level minions who seemed to have no specific purpose other than being sicced on Our Heroes? It did strike me that hellhounds are a fairly bush league threat compared to prior confrontations Ellen has survived against the Second Horseman and Azazel, and their inclusion rather than the usual possessed thugs (who can be exorcised) seemed tailored to ensure that someone had to make that last stand.