Plus bonus points for use of the word 'mosey'.

Oz ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 20, 2009 5:16:53 am PST #4365 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

One thing I don't like now that the show is more about the coming Apocalypse than cryptozoology along America's backroads is that everything is still set in the US. I wish there'd been at least a throwaway line from Lucifer at some point that his host has been a recluse since his wife died, so he figured he might as well set everything up close to home.

Also, why can't Castiel kill demons anymore? He destroyed or expelled several angels immediately after his resurrection, and that's been shown to be much more difficult to accomplish. It'd be nice if the changes to his bag of tricks had some sort of internal consistency.


Polter-Cow - Nov 20, 2009 5:59:25 am PST #4366 of 30002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I can't also help but think that the very fandom-savvy writers were more or less saying, "Have at it, Good Omens/Supernatural crossover ficcers!"

The opening shot of the highway interchange was totally an homage.

I dreamed that Bobby died too. He was impaled. It was bloody.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2009 6:05:24 am PST #4367 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It'd be nice if the changes to his bag of tricks had some sort of internal consistency.

Well, at least he seems surprised by the inconsistency.


Beverly - Nov 20, 2009 6:07:39 am PST #4368 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Fun Fact about Carthage, MO: It's home of the Precious Moments Inspirational Park.

Huh. I've been there.

You sent us photos from the place. Even more scary than some of your links.


Lee - Nov 20, 2009 7:11:07 am PST #4369 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Also, why can't Castiel kill demons anymore? He destroyed or expelled several angels immediately after his resurrection, and that's been shown to be much more difficult to accomplish. It'd be nice if the changes to his bag of tricks had some sort of internal consistency.

I thought they were deteriorating progressively the longer he was out of Heaven. He was clearly surprised he couldn't off the demon, and in The End, Future Castiel mentioned that he had pretty much lost all of his powers by that point.


Atropa - Nov 20, 2009 9:07:56 am PST #4370 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I think the show kills near everybody. The choice has been made not to hire women as semi-regulars, so their paucity is more noted, but the Winchesters are regularly shriven of associates and comrades. It's their mark.

Exactly. And, in terms of meta-issues with SPN and how it deals with women: yes, it annoys me too. But, it is also very apparent to me (and especially after last week's episode) that the creators are fans of media that is traditionally problematic. They're gaming, horror, and comics geeks. (Trust me, last week's LARPing convention was FAR TOO ACCURATE for mere passing Google research.) And they haven't stopped to really examine or think about some of the recurring issues that are present in those types of media.

Yes, they could and should be better about the show's treatment of women. But I'm not terribly surprised that they aren't. I think that writing Jo and Ellen's deaths as a choice they made was a step forward in terms of how the show views female characters.

I agree that no one is going to escape unscathed from this season's arc. I've resigned myself to Bobby's death, I've somewhat resigned myself to Castiel's death. I don't think both of the Winchester boys are going to make it out alive, either.


Typo Boy - Nov 20, 2009 9:17:05 am PST #4371 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Maybe NEITHER boy will make it out alive. Heck, it would not be false to the horror genre for the last episode to kill off everyone on this planet as Lucifer triumphs. Lucifer kills off all the demons, God shows up and kills off all the angels (including Lucifer and other fallen angels). Then emo God looks around, says to himself "its going to be very lonely". Long pause. "Well" . Longer pause . shrug. "Let there be light".


Polter-Cow - Nov 20, 2009 9:19:08 am PST #4372 of 30002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I don't think both of the Winchester boys are going to make it out alive, either.

They've already died individually anyway. Killing them both is the only way to keep 'em dead.

I know Sam and Dean are very aware of the short lifespans in their profession, but I'm not convinced Kripke would actually kill off the main characters in the series finale. I mean, you can kill off main characters in your series finale, but not THE main characters.

I do wish we knew for sure that there won't be a sixth season. I keep hearing waffling. If it's going to be a season finale, killing off the Winchesters seems less likely, since they'd just have to be brought back, and we've been through that already.


P.M. Marc - Nov 20, 2009 9:20:44 am PST #4373 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yes, they could and should be better about the show's treatment of women. But I'm not terribly surprised that they aren't. I think that writing Jo and Ellen's deaths as a choice they made was a step forward in terms of how the show views female characters.

Totally. Frankly, they did a better job here than Joss Whedon ever did in killing off his female characters.


P.M. Marc - Nov 20, 2009 9:21:32 am PST #4374 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I know Sam and Dean are very aware of the short lifespans in their profession, but I'm not convinced Kripke would actually kill off the main characters in the series finale. I mean, you can kill off main characters in your series finale, but not THE main characters.

Spoken as a man who was not raised on Blake's 7.

Which, you know, I was raised on, and it twisted my expectations for life.