I shed a tear too, which is rare for me outside very predictable crypoints. Dean's two kisses, Ellen's tears, kick them in the ass...I got sniffles.
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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I actually didn't--just too gutted, I think.
Did they lose the Colt (again)? Even though it didn't kill Lucifer, maybe it could kill Death.
Unless the Horsemen are the other beings it can't kill.
There are four of them and one Lucifer. It's totally possible.
I was hoping God was one of the things it couldn't kill. But the Horsemen made sense. I wanted to see Peter Wingfield arise.
Maybe God doesn't count as a mere being?
Excellent episode. Touching and riveting. I just love when Castiel told Lucifer, "You are not taking Sam Winchester. I won't allow it."
Ellen was a great character; I'll miss her. As far as I'm concerned, they really did right by Ellen and Jo. As others have said, they died heroically. Two strong, ass-kicking women.
Condo meeting update: clusterf***
I cried, but I found it unforgiveable. Jo and Ellen died for nothing. That's not agency. That's the storyteller fucking with them.
All the women are dead. Okay, not Meg, but Castiel threw her into the fire.
I loved Jo and Ellen, and this isn't a heroic death for me, it's pretty meaningless.
Everyone goes out of their way to help the Winchesters, and what they get is dead. Except for Bobby, Bobby gets to live. But Jo and Ellen and Pamela and Bela and Ruby and Jess and Mary and Madison? They're all dead.
I'm sorry if I'm peeing in anyone's cheetos, but man, I'm so upset. And angry.
I don't think they died just for the Winchesters though. I think Ellen died for Jo, and Jo died because she was a hunter and wasn't going to run away from the fight.
I despair that anyone other than Sam and Dean survive.
I'm not even that sure that both of them will.
eta: Purely hypothetically, if one of them does die, which one do you think it will be. (I am so unspoiled I didn't know the Harvelles were going to be in this ep.)
I think if it gets as far as vesselhood, and that looks inevitable at this point, both of the brothers will be burnt out from the inside, nothing left of either host's awareness or personality even if the body survives, no matter the outcome of the final fight.
And I don't believe either of them wants to survive without the other, so that ends rather tidily.
I'm completely unspoiled and I'm avoiding spec and meta, this is just where I think things are headed.