The mockumentary is awesome. So Misha.

The promo is making me excited and worried all at once. Boys!

"Deanmon" is incredibly cheesy, but I believe the fandom deserves it for having coined hellatus.

I'm torn between needing to know how long he's in this state (you *are* too sexy) and just wanting to take the ride blind. A good balance would be like S5--at the point where you love the replacement character but are just about to start resenting the missed fraternal time. And I can't tell without watching when that is.

Is there another trailer I'm missing? Sometimes fics seem to consense on a detail and I don't know if Cas saying he's dying is fanon or canon at this point. Kind of like Dean's safeword being Nickelback--why is that in multiple author's fics?

So I'm burbling along in this fic, thinking it's all cute and everything, and then I hit this line:

It was my dad’s, Dean finally signs. He… Dean struggles to find the phrasing for the next bit, lets his hand hang in the air. He wasn’t a good guy.

I'm so fucking frustrated with this I almost commented. He was actually a good guy. He was a hero who risked his life to save strangers without a second thought. Why can't anyone (exaggeration) write him as a good guy even if he's not a good father? Are all good people good parents?

Canonwise we know John's father was a good guy too, and we know that Samuel Campbell was despicable. Yet even in fics where Mary is still alive, John's often still a bad man and is fairly likely to die in a DUI of his own causing.

Does no one remember how he actually died? Deciding that there was something more important than his quest for vengeance--his family? Fanon has him an abuser and sometimes a murderer (drunk driving), but so rarely as an ethical self-sacrificing (it's not like all his hunts were Mary-related--he could totally have *only* pursued that path) man who may or may not be a good father in the absence of the canon stimuli.

Maybe that fight was Mary's fault, you know. We don't actually have any evidence.

Maybe that fight was Mary's fault, you know. We don't actually have any evidence.

I had an idea that I played with in a (now Jossed) John backstory fic. That fight happened shortly after Sam was born - and also right around the time Mary's 10 years were coming due. So, from John's perspective, she was probably on edge and acting strangely for no reason at all. If one partner is having major stress and can't/won't open up to the other partner that anything is even wrong, that would create a fertile breeding ground for a nasty marital fight.

He was actually a good guy. He was a hero who risked his life to save strangers without a second thought. Why can't anyone (exaggeration) write him as a good guy even if he's not a good father?

That drives me nuts, and not just with John. I feel with a lot of writers that characters either need to be 100% in the right, with complete justification for even their worst-seeming actions, or they need to be total assholes.

I did actually end up commenting on that fic, and got this in response:

yes hello in this universe as they are not hunters, john winchester's main job was to be a father.
and dont every try to defend him as dean's father because nO
if u are looking for nice!john i've written that too. in au i sort of switch back and forth depending on the 'verse - i agree with you that he could have been a good guy. but he wasn't. and he wasn't in this fic.

Clearly it was a dumb idea for me to comment to start out with, and there will be no conversation, since I called John a shitty parent twice in my comment. It's almost like she's admitting she can't write complexity, so she has to go for the 100% characterisation. Not that I'm going to read her other fics--I've written her off even more with that reply.

That teaser I hadn't seen yet and I am totally flailyhands at (ok, I'll say it) Deanmon. THAT. LOOKS. SO. FUN.

I even got one of the "everything sucks since Kripke" fanboys to admit it looks promising for the season as far as it goes. But he also wants the Sam, Dean, and Cas show to be more racially diverse--I guess I should be on top of how many episodes Kevin was in to compare to Cas, but for a show that rarely has regulars outside of the brothers-with-the-same-parent, it seems the main way to fix it is to cast the Winchester boys as PoC.

I would cast Aldis Hodge as Sam, but I'm blanking on a good PoC Dean and Cas.

I can't stop reading Deanmon as DeanMom.

Part of me wants to fuck up the modus operandi of past seasons and have Demon!Dean be more than one season. I can definitely see an arc for him within that. Wait, when was soulless!Sam re-souled, what episode?

I keep reading Deanmon as "Dean, man..." in a bad Jamaican accent.

All the black guys I can think of are too old for the roles of both Dean and Sam, unfortunately. I hit a block. But I think Aldis would make a great Dean too! There's so much of Misha that's shaped Cas decisions that....as much as I'd love to see, say, Morris Chestnut in the role, I just can't.

Oh, wait--Aldis as Sam, and Michael Ealy as Dean? I could handle that. In fact, it even seems a bit literal a translation. Mary is Angela Basset, and John...probably needs to be lighter skinned and I'm blanking again.

Wait, when was soulless!Sam re-souled, what episode?

Appointment in Samarra, episode 11. Huh--I thought it was earlier than that. Please don't keep Dean a demon for half a season. As much as I ended up enjoying RoboSam for both comedy and angst, I do regret taking away that much DeanAndSam time from them.