Those uninterested or completely turned off by behind the scenes and real-life stuff, hide your eyes. Personally, this kind of discussion is something I enjoy.

There've been reports from Tumblr's rabid Destiel faction of Misha's trolling about S10 Dean/Cas. He's promising things are going to be "more loving" between the characters. Given the network's usual stand on such things, you may dispense a pinch or a boatload of salt for that notion. Master of ri'ling up keeping fandom engaged, is our Mish.

I think I've just come to terms that this is not the show I fell in love with way back when. And these are not the characters I invested in all those years ago. I love the fact that everyone concerned is still employed. If you watch the (slight spoiler at the start of the vid) latest vid interview with Jensen from TCA14, it's obvious he's as committed to the sort of village cottage industry that is the on-site production crew of SPN as he is to any writer's vision. He's always been so oriented to a staunch work ethic, I've gotten the impression over the years that not having a job is a sign of failure for him. So the continued production of this old warhorse of a show is something he's dedicated to. And of course, giving him episodes to direct is engaging his investment from a new and intriguing angle. I think Jared has put his creativity into his winery, and into his family, and the community he's found in Austin.

I suppose I should be pleased for them that they've hit that young married-and-parents plateau of home life, and a stable work environment. They're both doing well, and I really am happy for them. I've just had to sign off on the show I loved, and watch this new beast with curious but far less invested interest.

Also, Quickreaver made a thing for Ash48 for S10. GoT-SPN crossover or not, the graphic is *gorgeous*.

At first I fell in love with a show with goodlooking angst and surprising character choices. Then it became a show that did "things". Not over many, but things nonetheless.

When it goes away I won't have a show that thinks nothing of shipping the show with God/the writer, or inserting layers in reality and removing walls.

There isn't a season I'd go back to say and do "This one! Again! Again!". I'm so damned happy we got all of them, and that it's a diverse show where you can always tell where you are.

I am skeptical of people reading Misha's twitter for information. Isn't his picture in Wikipedia for "fanbait"?

I'm still reading so many summaries/tumblr posts crying about how a) they were promised D/C and b) the writing ruined it, and I thought "Being D/C does not make these my people"--in fact I found my name listed in the anon meme as a Destelier who is reasonable..

I think the show bears the weight of a huge fandom, despite the scheduled departures, and I think that's what will break it. It's still low rated and cheap as hell.

Well, Pedowitz is a really avid fan. I don't know if that's personal or brings-my-network-money. But at least they won't be on the bubble for renewal unless show really tanks. And at this point, they seem pretty unsinkable.

Even though shippers seem more vicious in SPN fandom than in any other I can remember. For all I've always been emotionally invested in Sam and Dean, shipping has never been the major draw for me, for this show or any other.

Now I'm just kicking back, looking at the pretty, and being mildly amused and entertained. I lost emotional investment sometime after mid-S7, even though I fought that notion for a while. I mean, even in the finale, I'm not thinking "Oh no, Dean!" or "Poor Sam!" I'm going, "Nice choices, Jared." and "Jensen really doesn't do limp well."

And truthfully, while I am very fond of Mark Sheppard, I wouldn't cry real tears if Crowley disappeard up his own arsehole forever. I'm tired of his character. I do think it's hilarious that Crowley's outlasted his characters on BSG, Burn Notice, Dollhouse, White Collar, Warehouse 17, Leverage, and whatever other shows he's been on. Michael Caine of the early two thousands.

There is finally a possibility of Sheppard redeeming himself this season with a tightly integrated point, but they could also take the too much to 200.

Tending to a fan favourite who plays a bad guy rarely leads to good things. That's why only Leverage, IMO, did his recurring status any good.

He's changed SPN for the worse, just to excuse his next appearance. But now there's a real potential for him to be a demon (uh, should we resolve that???) and around a lot.

My exact feeling when I realised the Mark was going to make him a demon was "Shit, did what Alistair couldn't. Shit--Sam! Shit--Cas! You both tried to save him from this and Castiel's entire "life" because life because of the downstream. What a fuck you."

I'm still having character-related responses first, but I pay attention less and less to the actors (though I did have a weird dream last night that involved the plot of a(n obviously unmade) JP movie and even a young Misha album cover--Amy you were there, and boy was there a lot to talk about.)

Because of a 20% discount and insanity, I ordered this [link] months ago.

DO NOT BUY. It's crap. No doors work, which is merely disappointing, but one of the windshield wipers and both of the wing mirrors have fallen off, and it's not like I *play* with it (that is reserved for the 1:64 version.

Which is marvellous for fiddling with (zoom zoom!), and the bonnet opens.

I was just reading comments on a board (I know, I know) and came across the acronym ESG being used repeatedly in an accusatory fashion.

I love Sam but you ESG can’t stand it if he’s not worshiped at all times!

Can anyone translate for me?

ESG = Evil Sam Girl

When I've seen it (anon meme), it's been E for Extreme.

Similar for EDG and ECG.

the plot of a(n obviously unmade) JP movie and even a young Misha album cover--Amy you were there, and boy was there a lot to talk about

I bet!