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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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SuziQ - May 01, 2014 2:39:41 pm PDT #29570 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Juliebird - that is how I felt. It wasn't an episode of SPN, just a pilot with guest appearances from the boys.

Normally I rewatch once or twice during the week and this week, I have the impulse and then I remember the episode and I'm disappointed all over again.


Amy - May 01, 2014 2:53:48 pm PDT #29571 of 30002
Because books.

You know what would have been a much better back-door pilot? The episode with Garth's new werewolf family.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 01, 2014 4:08:05 pm PDT #29572 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Was it last season that had several episodes with a back-door pilot feel (the college werewolves, the guy who inherited a golem, the teenage hunter halfway house, and the one full of racefail and bestiality squick)? I might have been inclined to watch series based on the first two.


-t - May 01, 2014 5:19:42 pm PDT #29573 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Loved the golem.


Beverly - May 01, 2014 6:16:29 pm PDT #29574 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Warning for unpopular opinion.

I would love to see the network get 100% behind Bloodlines, get off the SPN bandwagon, and pull the plug already. The scripts and season arcs have sucked, characterisation of all three leads has been deliberately sabotaged to the point none of them is recognizable. And at this point, I think, past rescue by writers who understand them and are willing to respect canon.

Frankly, I want to see Jensen play somebody besides Dean. Misha is so adept, I want his version of practically every movie role out there. I want to see what Jared will do in other roles. It's past time this show was staked and burned, and put to final rest. If it takes the CW getting behind a show more suited for their network for them to let SPN go, then I'm all for Bloodlines being picked up.

I actually sent a (I understand, totally futile) message to the writers to please stop using Carry On for the finale, because it's become obvious there will never be peace for these characters, and apparently, they will never be done.


askye - May 01, 2014 6:45:46 pm PDT #29575 of 30002
Thrive to spite them

TV Guide had a pretty good take down on why Bloodlines sucked.


EpicTangent - May 02, 2014 8:11:16 am PDT #29576 of 30002
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

I'm thinking none of you guys watched CSI this week? That ep was also what appeared to be a backdoor pilot and was so painful that I really, really enjoyed this one by contrast. Though that is perhaps not really a glowing recommendation.

I will say the Romeo & Juliet subplot with the "I won't tell him why I broke his heart beacuse I'm so Beautifully Nooooble," thing was annoying as hell - so sick of, "we'll never be happy together because we're too moronic to have a flippin' conversation," plots.

So, interesting concept, weakly executed.


JenP - May 02, 2014 11:29:33 am PDT #29577 of 30002

Didn't like Chicago Monster Wars. I mean, besides everything else, the acting by several of the leads was just not good. And I'm no expert or connoisseur, so.

I'm wondering what Charlie and Dorothy are doing in Oz. Just one season, maybe. That would be fun.

I feel like I just want this season to end. I'm not sad there's another season, I just hope it's... enjoyable and that they let the boys go out with a bang.


Amy - May 02, 2014 11:40:25 am PDT #29578 of 30002
Because books.

I'm not sure if I'm sad there's another season at this point, which I never thought I'd say. I feel like I need to rewatch, too -- I started the season with such high hopes, and I remember loving the first few episodes, and then it all went to shit.

It's petty and not even necessarily true, but I feel like Jared's tweets are sort of painfully gung-ho now, too. Like, he really thought that episode was a standout? Seriously?

I liked the accidental!werewolves episode, and I would love to see/read more about that girl as she travels. That would have been an outstanding backdoor pilot, like Matt said. When it ended, I was bummed I wouldn't see her again.


§ ita § - May 03, 2014 5:03:20 pm PDT #29579 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why would SPN and Bloodlines be a zero sum game? People who like Bloodlines (which I'm sure will get lots of network attention, since it's a true CW show) can have it. And I can keep watching SPN alone with the people who still like it.

None of the suggested backdoor pilots are shows they want to see. They're shows that an audience, a small audience, they already have would also see, and go to the same conventions and buy about the same stuff.

I am zero interested in Bloodlines, but it makes perfect sense, and the only thing that bothers me is losing writing staff. It would have been great to have another show, but I don't think anyone's making another SPN any time now. Certainly not the CW. They have one.