Dawn: I feel safe with you. Spike: Take that back!

'First Date'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 23, 2013 2:10:36 pm PST #29285 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Women's underwear cut to hold stick and berries (should the man have them) is not women's underwear, right?

I wouldn't think so. I've seen some pretty fancy, silky stuff when underwear shopping, but it was specifically designed for men. Wearing that sort of thing wouldn't make a man trans any more than wearing coveralls would a woman without an accompanying urge to identify or present as the opposite gender, though "girly" and "boyish" might be fair descriptions.


§ ita § - Nov 23, 2013 2:46:57 pm PST #29286 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, I gather the cry of "I'm not a transvestite! I just like wearing women's panties instead of boxers!" would be followed by the laugh track, whereas--hey, Victor's Secret is a bit more well kept. It's not the fault of the guy who has to suffer through the uncomfortable fit.

(Noting, of course, there are some guys that *love* said fit)


Juliebird - Nov 23, 2013 3:22:08 pm PST #29287 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Paid my cable bill and finally caught up on Show.

The end. OMG. I don't think I've been double-sucker punched like that in ages. First the sight of baby Sam and Dean making his choice (despite the unfortunate eyebrows, that actor gave really good Dean, props to him), and then Sam actually cluing in. I flove it when Sam gets what Dean has done for him/what he means to Dean. Actually, I can't really recall any other instances. Dean selling his soul for him was an obvious one, but I can't remember if it was shown that Sam Got It. Maybe this was a first. Heart-clench.

ita, what is the Cas-foster-fic?


§ ita § - Nov 23, 2013 3:26:07 pm PST #29288 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think of Season Five as the Season Where Sam Pulled His Head Out Of His Ass Re Mommy Dean. Starting with heaven.

Here's Smiling Out of Fear by pinupchemist, Julie. Probably the best foster D/C AU I can remember reading, but I'm always open to a new good one, or remember an old good one.


§ ita § - Nov 25, 2013 1:23:57 pm PST #29289 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh ho ho. I guess I was spoiling for a fight, but I went to look up fictional MBTI scores. First off, do I believe in MBTI? Secondly, do I think you can apply rigorous psychology to fictional characters? Thirdly, how contradictory do I feel right now?

My biggest beef is about Dean, no surprise:

Dean has trouble with projecting or predicting future consequences

Why is he the team lead, then?

He draws on the details of a situation at hand, rather then having a large amount of stored knowledge about specific creatures

Why does Sam say "You're a genius -- when it comes to lore, to -- you're the best damn hunter I have ever seen -- better than me, better than dad.", huh? Huh? He remembers a bunch of shit too.

Just because you're an improviser doesn't mean you don't have a great big rolodex of info (cf bon bon's rob rob).

I do like this about Sam, though:

He is empathetic and wants to bring their life back into harmony. However, applying this function to the people closest to him is still developing.

It's one of my favourite things about him, seeing him struggle with it. And he improved his speed over Bad Boys.


Cass - Nov 25, 2013 4:33:14 pm PST #29290 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I guess I was spoiling for a fight, but I went to look up fictional MBTI scores.

Entertaining! Maybe?

First off, do I believe in MBTI?

Limited usefulness. It's not a terrible start to realizing that individuals are all different but it's not gospel. Still, it was useful for me when I first was introduced to it to realize that people see and react to the world from their unique perspective.

Secondly, do I think you can apply rigorous psychology to fictional characters?

You're usually psychoanalyzing the writer, I think. I want to think they all keep the characters separate and honor them but I don't actually believe it usually happens that way.

I mostly feel less intrusive poking in the head's of fictional characters. I'm not judging them, I am ... no, I am judging them but also a hint of fair consideration.


§ ita § - Nov 25, 2013 4:55:17 pm PST #29291 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You're usually psychoanalyzing the writer, I think

And on TV, you're psychoanalyzing a bunch of writers. So by the time you're done, you've got a good sampling of Hollywood TV writers personalities?

JUST DON'T TELL ME THAT DEAN'S NOT THE MAN WITH THE PLAN AND WITH THE LORE. The show mostly manages to still draw a distinction between Sam's kind of brains and his by colouring the attitude with which they approach the tasks, but you can't improvise if you don't have the facts to spring from. I think Sam likes to improvise less, but they'll both get out of the unexpected situation, and they'll both find the information needed to work out the case. The narrative has to balance the costars out in the end.


Cass - Nov 25, 2013 5:35:27 pm PST #29292 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

So by the time you're done, you've got a good sampling of Hollywood TV writers personalities?

Honestly? Nope. I think then you've got what just randomly made it to actual screen. But we call it "Sam" and "Dean" and totally adore them.

I do adore Dean and Sam but I think there's a lot of thinky backstory that never made it to the air waves. What airs is what airs. And that's, necessarily, more limited than canon.


§ ita § - Nov 25, 2013 7:29:55 pm PST #29293 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Castiel was supposed to sing AC/DC Back to Hell (is that the right one???) to Tanya. That was have exploded some shippers. But what we got was charming. There are intentions, and there are ...well...I'll give you the more detailed statistics once I've loaded every transcript into Evernote. It's my saviour.


-t - Nov 25, 2013 7:44:20 pm PST #29294 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Highway to Hell?