Spike: Lots of fuss over one girl. Other things to do around here--important things. Angel: You know that whoosh thing you do when you're suddenly not there anymore? I love that.

'Unleashed'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Nov 06, 2013 5:09:48 am PST #29210 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Nothing about Dean says dog-hater, and I don't think the attack in Mystery Spot can count

Other than disliking dogs, what would say dog-hater about Dean (I don't know that anyone said hate)? Are there corollary dog dislike characteristics he lacks, or is it like the debate I was having earlier about angel swords where I just don't like canon and am trying to work around it?

My interpretation of his dislike (fear) has nothing to do with Mystery Spot, BTW, since it was a hellhound-induced thing, and that was before he had died. However, he might have just disliked dogs because he disliked dogs--there's no evidence either way that I can see.

And I don't see anything unfeasible about having been mauled by hellhounds and developing a general dog-dislike as a reaction--it would like having fallen from a great height and developing a fear of smaller heights or less dangerous situations. Gunshy tends to be OTT like that, doesn't it?


Amy - Nov 06, 2013 5:14:50 am PST #29211 of 30002
Because books.

In my fanon, Dean loves dogs. Because ... guys are supposed to love dogs. And Jensen loves dogs. It's not rational, but I'm okay with it. i.e. I just don't like canon on this point, and I don't think it's been entirely consistent.


§ ita § - Nov 06, 2013 5:56:11 am PST #29212 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Before this week, how was it inconsistent?


Hil R. - Nov 06, 2013 5:57:12 am PST #29213 of 30002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

And I don't see anything unfeasible about having been mauled by hellhounds and developing a general dog-dislike as a reaction

That's how I interpreted it when they've used it, but they've been so inconsistent with it that I really have no idea.


§ ita § - Nov 06, 2013 6:55:17 am PST #29214 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

they've been so inconsistent with it that I really have no idea.

When was it inconsistent before yesterday?


Amy - Nov 06, 2013 7:15:09 am PST #29215 of 30002
Because books.

Post hellounds, there was S6, with All Dogs Go to Heaven, or whatever. He didn't seem to have a problem with the dog in that episode.

Oh, also Dark Side of the Moon. He wasn't freaked out by the dog in Sam's memory.


§ ita § - Nov 06, 2013 7:48:42 am PST #29216 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'd have to rewatch All Dogs Go To Heaven to see how he treated the skinwalker, but he didn't really interact with the dog in Sam's memory--he just looked at it, right? I've never said he's freaked out by them (and neither did the text, that I see)--just that he doesn't like them, isn't comfort(able/ed) wrt them, certainly not in drawn to them the way that Sam was, and certainly not empathetic in the way he is now.


Amy - Nov 06, 2013 11:57:03 am PST #29217 of 30002
Because books.

I thought people/someone had said before his dislike of dogs came from fear, after the hellhounds. Aside from him running from the Yorkie in Yellow Fever (which seemed like just a perfect sight gag), I don't recall him being afraid of dogs at all. Before that, based on Mystery Spot if nothing else, he seemed to like dogs. Then in 8.01 he was suddenly adamant about "no dogs in the car!" which I can't remember ever hearing from him before.

Sam has always clearly seemed to like dogs. Dean, it seems to me, has been all over the map. That's about as far as I want to analyze it, honestly. I already said I know part of it is simply my fanon.


§ ita § - Nov 06, 2013 12:03:22 pm PST #29218 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He also ended up pulling a gun on a Yorkie in the season six opener.

Right now I can't point you to why I felt 8.01 was a confirmation and not a revelation, but that was definitely something I felt I'd learnt from watching without trying to rely on the hallucination either.


Typo Boy - Nov 06, 2013 12:18:25 pm PST #29219 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Don't remember which number "man's best friend with benefits" was but in it the lover/pet/familiar said that she could sense in her dog form that he did not like dogs. Dean denied it... Evidence for ita !'s theory.