One thing I raised my eyebrow at was the unkillable witch that could only be momentarily inconvenienced by the poppy bullets. Really? It works for the solo hunter in the 50s, but the Winchesters have at least one weapon that they routinely kill angels with. Why not give that a try and see if it works?
Danger's my birthright.
Buffy ,'The Killer In Me'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 30, 2013 4:04:44 pm PDT #29164 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
-t - Oct 30, 2013 4:07:31 pm PDT #29165 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Did Dorothy ever say how she came back from the dead?
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 30, 2013 4:32:03 pm PDT #29166 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Really thoughtful post about queer representation and the Dean/Cas shippers here: [link]
Well-written, though I'd say that on a series with two main characters and five frequently recurring ones, having one of the latter as a positive lesbian portrayal is already doing pretty good and generating good audience feedback for the creators. (Nevermind that the recurring character who's the show's favorite villain often codes as queer too.) Given that, I doubt the worst-case scenario the author posits is a real possibility.
Amy - Oct 30, 2013 4:54:12 pm PDT #29167 of 30002
Because books.
Oh, I agree, Matt. But I think in general her points are sound.
Did Dorothy ever say how she came back from the dead?
No, I don't think so. But there's magic in Oz, so.
-t - Oct 30, 2013 4:58:43 pm PDT #29168 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
OK, I thought maybe I missed it and I was curious.
§ ita § - Oct 30, 2013 5:06:22 pm PDT #29169 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
the Winchesters have at least one weapon that they routinely kill angels with
What have we seen it magically kill, though, outside of the Heaven/Hell paradigm? I assume that when you stabbed a human with it, they just react like you stabbed them with a big dagger.
I'd like to see them expand on that, if there's expansion to be had. But the idea that Oz has its own rules and Jehovah is irrelevant to her was where my head was for the episode. Not that she was like any of our witches who've dallied with Hellish powers.
having one of the latter as a positive lesbian portrayal is already doing pretty good and generating good audience feedback for the creators
Matt, I am so disappointed in you. Why don't you understand how badly homosexuality is portrayed, how the queer audience is betrayed 23 times a year plus conventions and interviews? Are you sure you're gay? Please view and report back your heart rate and blood pressure.
Vortex - Oct 30, 2013 6:08:58 pm PDT #29170 of 30002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
(Nevermind that the recurring character who's the show's favorite villain often codes as queer too.)
I think of Crowley as pansexual.
Please view and report back your heart rate and blood pressure.
I don't think that's fair. My heart rate and blood pressure went up.
§ ita § - Oct 30, 2013 6:52:30 pm PDT #29171 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Gynophilia for all!
Typo Boy - Oct 30, 2013 10:45:00 pm PDT #29172 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Dorthy is at least OK with Charlie's sexual orientation, (Since one of the things Charlie muttered coming back from the dead was "can you be my new crush?") Doesn't mean Dorthy leans that way herself, but given that she comes from a pretty homophobic time, it indicates that it is not out of the question.
Hil R. - Oct 31, 2013 4:02:29 am PDT #29173 of 30002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Did "crush" have the same meaning in Dorothy's time? I'm not sure when the meaning shifted, but I've seen it used in stuff at least as late as WWI to mean a strong, rather one-sided female friendship. (In one of the Anne of Green Gables books, it's used for a little girl who sees a new girl in school and thinks this new girl is just the bestest most incredibly little girl ever, and wants to be her best friend forever and ever. And when I was in college, I remember going through some old campus magazines and seeing a few things from around 1918 or so where it was used in a similar sense in mentioning that a freshman girl had a crush on a senior girl.)