Crossroads demons have been under orders not to answer summons from Sam or Dean for a while now, haven't they?
A man walks down the street in that hat, people know he's not afraid of anything.
Wash ,'The Message'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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Matt the Bruins fan - May 10, 2013 2:10:24 pm PDT #28358 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
§ ita § - May 10, 2013 2:22:18 pm PDT #28359 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
They called one in the Harlem Shake episode. Did we learn of orders after that?
§ ita § - May 12, 2013 4:33:38 pm PDT #28360 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm watching Hemlock Grove, and they used the word catabasis, which they defined as "the lowest point of a trial" but I can't find a definition that matches that. It seems to be like doppleganger or lycanthropy, a word I'm basically good with translating literally, but it's not really required to have a supernatural component. It could be a nadir, but also, in the arts, a visit to the underworld as part of a hero's journey.
Anyway, it seems to apply to Sam doubly this season since he went to hell on a trial¹, but it could cover either his cage dive or Dean's time downstairs. And, tidily, a catabasis must be followed by an anabasis (which is the return) which makes it a) different from death and b) applicable to our boys.
I just need to draw a picture worthy of the cool term.
t /random vocab lesson
Amy - May 12, 2013 5:46:15 pm PDT #28361 of 30002
Because books.
"Catabasis" sounds weirdly familiar.
I have anxiety about next week. And then the dread of the long, hot Winchesterless summer.
Matt the Bruins fan - May 12, 2013 5:52:40 pm PDT #28362 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I'm familiar with the term katabatic for describing glacial winds - I guess it's cool air sinking when it reaches the point where the ice pack falls off?
§ ita § - May 12, 2013 6:23:41 pm PDT #28363 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Ooh, I forgot my footnote:
¹: It is fair to say that only one finale has killed the boys, right? So hoping that neither of them die, for a change, at the end of the episode is kinda silly? I mean, hope they don't get separated, because that's happened as often as not, but Dean didn't even get close to dying the first time until way into the episode.
§ ita § - May 14, 2013 12:18:18 pm PDT #28364 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Any finale predictions? I figure at least these things are up in the air:
- who dies?
- who rules Hell?
- who is separated at the end of the episode?
- whose nature is radically changed?
Amy - May 14, 2013 12:22:19 pm PDT #28365 of 30002
Because books.
My predictions: 100% RAINBOWS AND KITTENS AND UNICORN TEARS.
Right? RIGHT?
As long as neither Sam nor Dean (nor Cas, actually) is permanently damaged or has his "nature radically changed" (why did you even give me that to worry about?), I'll be happy.
Well, as happy as I can be before hiatus.
Juliebird - May 14, 2013 12:39:30 pm PDT #28366 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
I don't predict, but I want Cas to finally make the choice to listen to Dean (he started out that way when he first turned his back on Heaven). Or, maybe not listen, but to say "hey, I'm in this shit position and I don't like it even though the ends seem like the right thing, the means are skeeving me out. What do you think? Help".
If Sam completes the trials, and Hell closes, we lose the demons, but still keep all the other boogeymen, and maybe the amount of ghosts increases if one or both gates get closed, so the future of the show will still have interesting antagonists and victims.
I want Sam to complete the trials and get purified, I want him to be the "demon" that is saved, and have that taint wiped from him forever.
I want Heaven to get it's doors closed, but by Crowley's hand, and for Cas to get cut off from Heaven, and turn human.
But alas, I have absolutely no predictions, other than none of my wants coming true.
Typo Boy - May 14, 2013 3:46:07 pm PDT #28367 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
On the other hand it would be good story telling for Sam to close the gates of hell, and Cas to close Heaven (which would trap him with all the other angels). I'd miss Cas but...