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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Apr 04, 2013 6:21:17 pm PDT #28115 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So, so far I've heard (am unspoilt):

  • It all went like it looked
  • Kevin hallucinated the whole thing
  • Angels can't haunt your dreams! That was Naomi.
  • Naomi is Metatron
  • Metatron goosed Castiel's grace and he's the other part of him snapping out of it
  • Crowley is a fallen angel

I think those are all the ones I have heard.

Anything else?


Typo Boy - Apr 04, 2013 9:07:29 pm PDT #28116 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I'm leaning towards the third bullet point, with added Naomi now has Kevin.

Also when the gates of hell are closed (or fail to be closed) I wonder if Dean & Sam will rescue Benny.

And in terms of the plot not holding up,yeah what everybody says.


§ ita § - Apr 05, 2013 5:12:32 am PDT #28117 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You mean that Sam and Dean will go to Purgatory to get Benny? I guess he could change his mind about life, but if Dean can't fix what was wrong for him (and he shouldn't! It's not his place!) why not respect his choice? Fine, Dean isn't Mr. Respect Yr Choices, but still.

IO9 seems to be comfortable using my recaps. It's not something they're telling me, though.


Amy - Apr 05, 2013 7:39:13 am PDT #28118 of 30002
Because books.

The whole storyline really drives home how bleak this universe is. There's no rest for Benny, ever, I guess. Dean killed him topside, but his soul went to purgatory, where he gets to hunt and be hunted forever.

Unless he dies in purgatory. I'm still not sure what happens then.

I really did hate that Crowley was able to reroute Bobby's soul. More and more, I just hate Crowley, and not the love-to-hate-him way, either. They've turned him into a very convenient, all-purpose demon ex machina.


§ ita § - Apr 05, 2013 8:42:19 am PDT #28119 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think they announced they were going to dance around what happened to being "killed" in Purgatory when Cas mentioned, which is annoying. Saying that you'd get re-Purgatorycated or something would be fine, if they also included enough downside that it wasn't just like putting another quarter into the pinball machine--or that there are severe severe ramifications if you've been assumed bodily there, like Sam or Dean or Cas.

COME ON PEOPLE. WE'RE OCD, AND WE LIKE CONSISTENCY.

I feel on Tumblr I reblog stuff to disagree with the emo-ness of episode reactions. Dean did not ask Benny to come home--he asked Benny to die. He thought he'd come home, but that's entirely different, IMO, in terms of getting your feels all over the episode.

Luckily, I suppose, Tumblr is not designed for back and forths, and it's easiest to ignore people, so I don't feel I'm getting all up in people's faces, but still. Did their Dean say different words? Did they not hear Benny screaming how awful a time he was having topside? Is weird.


Amy - Apr 05, 2013 8:45:22 am PDT #28120 of 30002
Because books.

He thought he'd come home

Exactly. And I'd go so far as to say he hoped he would come back with Sam, just because Dean doesn't want to be in purgatory anymore, so he can't understand Benny wanting to be. And I think if Benny had come back, he would have helped him acclimate better or something.

But, no, it wasn't, "Please come back to me, my darling!" Not at all.


§ ita § - Apr 05, 2013 10:50:12 am PDT #28121 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

because Dean doesn't want to be in purgatory anymore, so he can't understand Benny wanting to be

I'm glad he didn't get put into the position of rehabbing Benny, because I don't get the impression it was sustainable, and even if Dean isn't saving the world or walling off Hell all the time...needy. Needy in a way without exit strategy.

If he'd been a little less monomaniacal about Sam, he might have heard what Benny was saying, might even have realised it was no guarantee of return if if he'd wanted to, but I think everything fell by the wayside. Once again. I think the only reason Dean wouldn't raze the earth to save Sam is because he might dig that Sam wouldn't want all that, but I'm sure his first bender would have him back in a crossroads or whatever it'd take again. Apple pie and Lisa didn't hold him back.


§ ita § - Apr 05, 2013 2:11:21 pm PDT #28122 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, god, I'm the IO9 SPN crazy fangirl. I don't even know...I mean, I know--I got my star and was made a full poster based on an SPN comment, and every "natter" post about SPN is phrased to me, but now with the recaps it's like my POV is on trial, and I have to defend my theories and likes and dislikes.

It's...it's weird. And I'm going to assume no one can see me who would recognise me from any of my other fandom activities, because I have no profile.

But, hey, we're almost at the end of the season, right? I'm sure I'll make peace with the weird soon enough.


§ ita § - Apr 05, 2013 6:58:54 pm PDT #28123 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I swear, my sister is better at season 6 than I was. She's on episode 2:

I DO NOT TRUST THESE HUNTERS. AND I DON'T EVEN TRUST SAM. IS HE REALLY SAM? AIEE.


Marcia - Apr 06, 2013 12:26:52 pm PDT #28124 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

Everything I learned about Heaven, Hell, Purgatory, and Limbo I learned from George Carlin. According to him Hell was Hell and it was forever. Purgatory was as bad as Hell "but you knew you were going home." Purgatory cleansed the soul and you eventually could go to Heaven. It's a funny routine, and if the writing staff are familiar with Carlin's understanding of Purgatory, then maybe Benny's sacrifice will promote him Heavenward.