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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


§ ita § - Mar 07, 2013 6:18:11 pm PST #27893 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's good that they gave someone with such strong family bonds no automatic or overriding blood debt--I'm sure he didn't enjoy being betrayed by Sampa or fathering a dangerous daughter, but he saves Sam because of who Sam is to him, not because they share parents.

My sister got to A Very Supernatural Christmas, with concomitant tears.

I'm so proud...


Morgana - Mar 07, 2013 7:52:28 pm PST #27894 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

In terms of major disagreements between Sam & Dean: other than Lenore, have there been any cases where Sam was proven right and Dean proven wrong?

Warning Dean not to trust Gordon so quickly after meeting him

"Long-Distance Call" -- didn't Dean keep insisting that John was calling from beyond the grave even though Sam correctly told him it wasn't John calling them?

Every time he told Dean that ghost!Bobby was losing control and becoming erratic and they couldn't just ignore his actions any longer


Typo Boy - Mar 07, 2013 8:58:01 pm PST #27895 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah, all good examples.


§ ita § - Mar 09, 2013 10:46:20 am PST #27896 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

SPN made it onto the MTV 10 thing again. Gives details about Cas' absence and has new footage: [link]

Show makes it onto MTV twice a year, and made two TV Guide covers in a year--the reason why no one I talk to has heard of it because it's somehow skewing younger than people who've been watching since S1? Tumblr seems to back that up. Hmm.

I think it's a bit remarkable that the season low ratings was less than 3x Misha's theoretical twitter audience. Jared's about 100K below Misha


Amy - Mar 09, 2013 12:30:22 pm PST #27897 of 30002
Because books.

I think it's a bit remarkable that the season low ratings was less than 3x Misha's theoretical twitter audience.

Interesting. So still over a million, then. But probably less than two?

I want to personally thank Jensen for the Harlem Shake video, since hiatus so far seems to be simply .gifs of him dancing, which is lovely.


§ ita § - Mar 09, 2013 1:47:29 pm PST #27898 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Blood Brother got 1.78 million viewers. Which is really nobody. I don't understand enough about the numbers, though. I'd like to know how many people tune in, because although anyone with an agenda will explain what it is about that episode that got low ratings, if that's everyone that tuned in, maybe Bitten (which people seem to hate when they don't like it) is a culprit also. But if five million people tuned in for What's Up Tiger Mommy (highest rated ep of S8) and half of them ditched before the half hour mark, that's a whole different piece of information about fan response.

I mean, 1.78 million isn't that much less than 1.85, which was the season premiere (second lowest rated as far as SPNwiki got--just through Hunter Heroici).

Season 1 had eight episodes with over five million viewers. But that was an entirely different landscape. Not to mention network.

Poor CW--Bones, which struck me as another show no one I talk to knows about, had nine million viewers on a random 2012 episode I pulled off the net. The last time I looked at ad rates, SPN had the cheapest ads on the major networks, without having the lowest ratings (probably 2 years ago). But on that same Monday as Bones and their near ten mill, CW got .79 million with 90210. Which has to cost a metric ton to shoot, relatively speaking, what with filming in LA and having such a massive regular cast.


Amy - Mar 09, 2013 3:17:22 pm PST #27899 of 30002
Because books.

Wow, you know way more about the ratings than I do.

I think, though, even if the CW's ad rates are lower than others, it's still a matter of ratio? Their production budgets can't be as large, either, or the cast salaries. Also, what they need to make to sustain the CW is probably a lot less than what networks need to make, with their way, way huger infrastructures and news departments, etc.


§ ita § - Mar 09, 2013 5:40:41 pm PST #27900 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah--I doubt many other major network stars make as large a percentage of their show-related income from cons as J2. And they'll be able to cash in on that for a while--12 cons a year, mad cash per...yeah.

My sister is now up to the second Ghostfacers ep--she had the same Victor turnaround excitement many of us did, and then boom, in a literal sense.

And apparently she's been keeping mum about her bowlegs appreciation these whole two weeks...I showed her the tag on tumblr is pretty much a Jensen playground, but unfortunately she can't see the People's Choice video with the pantslessness in Jamaica.

I am still totally agog at the Pastiel movement--I had no idea there was such an audience for the feminising of the badass warrior angel. I admit, I'm not clear what's left when you nip in his waist, flare his hips, and make him a lamb that's going to get pregnant with Dean's foxy babies, but still intend him to be male. The intersection/interplay with canon is so distant for me that I don't know why you don't, say, put Samandriel in his place.


§ ita § - Mar 09, 2013 6:04:25 pm PST #27901 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, and now I'm reading about someone tweeting the directors to get Misha fired (it's amazing what haterade does to reading comprehension), and Minions sending them violent tweets...

This is when I think, yes, the fans are all 15. It's the only vaguely non-depressing explanation.


§ ita § - Mar 10, 2013 8:04:49 am PDT #27902 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Does anyone have a high res enough shot of Baby to determine if it has an Impala logo on it? I've gotten a decent look at the front and rear, as well as the driver side, and I can't see one, but hi res of the passenger side is eluding my search methodology.

Then again, it's hardly static:

The Chevy logo isn't on the promo shot.