I think that doing the right thing for Sam is to oppose the people who want to use him to bring Hell on earth, so arguing against that isn't letting him down in my books. It's not the same as disagreeing with someone--he had Sam's best interests at heart (as well as the planet's) and he was right to boot.
I've really got to learn to just do the damage and get out of town. It's the 'stay and gloat' that gets me every time.
Ethan Rayne ,'Potential'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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§ ita § - Mar 07, 2013 9:38:33 am PST #27884 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Typo Boy - Mar 07, 2013 9:52:32 am PST #27885 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
In terms of major disagreements between Sam & Dean: other than Lenore, have there been any cases where Sam was proven right and Dean proven wrong?
§ ita § - Mar 07, 2013 10:28:21 am PST #27886 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Lucifer and the cage (and not saying yes to Michael) is a biggie. But I'm sure there are smaller case-related ones, like him getting the hellhound instead.
Amy - Mar 07, 2013 10:29:25 am PST #27887 of 30002
Because books.
Sam knew he'd have a hard time offing his own kid, and saved the day at the last moment (and also proved she did indeed need to killed).
Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 07, 2013 11:19:59 am PST #27888 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I'm not convinced that Dean would have been unable to resolve that situation successfully on his own though. He seemed quite onboard with the necessity of putting his freakish daughter down afterwards, unlike Sam's weeks of petulant sniping over lovely, innocent brain-eating Amy.
§ ita § - Mar 07, 2013 11:21:05 am PST #27889 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Dean: I can’t do this alone.
Sam: Yes, you can.
Dean: Yeah, well... I don’t want to.
SuziQ - Mar 07, 2013 11:27:57 am PST #27890 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame
Ok, a conversation two cubes down included the word supernatural. I totally wanted to barge in on the conversation to see if they were talking SPN or not. I don't have any SPN stuff in my cube - just baseball related things.
Work has kept me from watching Supernatural Shake. Will have to remedy that when I get home.
Amy - Mar 07, 2013 11:36:23 am PST #27891 of 30002
Because books.
Sara wants to watch it ... well, almost as often as I do. ::hangs head::
I'm not convinced that Dean would have been unable to resolve that situation successfully on his own though.
If Sam hadn't shown up, he would have shot her, yeah, but he at least realized how hard it was to do with someone he had a connection to. And Sam had a much deeper friendship with Amy than the ten minutes Dean knew his daughter.
§ ita § - Mar 07, 2013 11:42:00 am PST #27892 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Sam's "petukance" is cast in a different light by Dean's resistance to the idea of Sam being the one that cleans up after Benny if he goes off the wagon.
§ ita § - Mar 07, 2013 6:18:11 pm PST #27893 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think it's good that they gave someone with such strong family bonds no automatic or overriding blood debt--I'm sure he didn't enjoy being betrayed by Sampa or fathering a dangerous daughter, but he saves Sam because of who Sam is to him, not because they share parents.
My sister got to A Very Supernatural Christmas, with concomitant tears.
I'm so proud...