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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Feb 07, 2013 2:48:54 pm PST #27561 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Didn't the show make a point of that, in fact?

It was slightly his arc in the episode, so I really really have no idea how this is substantiating her point when you could slip the siren into the facts and they make more sense than the scene she chose.


Juliebird - Feb 07, 2013 2:56:27 pm PST #27562 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Now, I'd love to see canon stating that Dean is bi, but I did not get that out of this ep. I saw him being uncomfortable to being cruised by a dude (and while the stumbling after said cruising could point to him being lustfully flustered, the purportedly lustful party did not inspire Dr. Sexy levels of desireableness), which leads me to think Dean's stumbling was due to sheer awkwardness.

Then him declaring to Sam about his "gay thing" expressed merely an acceptance of gayness existing, and him being okay with that in a broad sense.

So, no Dean bi-sexual evidence for me, although I'm much happier about his reaction here than in the past (e.g. to the club S&M dude in Cris Angel is a Douchebag, and to the vamp before he got turned, and even then it wasn't homophobia, but situational awkwardness and trying to put off a generally creepy dude).

But, yes, want to see Dean as someone's kept boy.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 07, 2013 5:12:16 pm PST #27563 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

For the record, I wouldn't have been too keen on having the Chief or skeezy vampire Judah Friedlander-alike hit on me either, and I'm pretty sure homophobia isn't at the root of that reaction.


Marcia - Feb 07, 2013 5:30:44 pm PST #27564 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

what were the instructions/directions that Larry gave Sam? To go to those coordinates, fine--but what is the action that renders the key inaccessible from everyone forever?

Larry instructed Sam to "take it to these coordinates, throw it in, shut the door forever, walk away." Presumably locking the only key in there makes it inaccessible.

P.S. I heart this episode so fucking much. That is all.


Amy - Feb 07, 2013 5:37:20 pm PST #27565 of 30002
Because books.

It does seem a little unlikely that a) no one has ever found it before, and b) there is NO way in without the key. Unless it's protected by spells, I guess.

Mostly I don't care, though, because I loved this episode so much. SO much.

Hey, who was it who said "Dean's about as straight as a slinky"? I mean, someone on the cast or crew said that, right?


§ ita § - Feb 07, 2013 6:56:16 pm PST #27566 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It does seem a little unlikely that a) no one has ever found it before, and b) there is NO way in without the key

Right now, all we have is a building. For all that Sam knows that if there is a key there needs to be a lock there's a remarkable blurring of Mordor and Erebor right now. We have no hint of most of what Larry said--the "supernatural motherlode" is so far a library--I'm not getting off them that Sam found magic, for instance. Or the fortress. They did find a great sooper secret HQ, but they've undersold on Larry's pitch.

I ran the Aaron scene back through a filter of a guy who's dating a guy but hasn't realised other guys would find him a plausible partner. He does not shut down the conversation or indicate that his orientation renders these advances undesirable. And there's absolutely no reason to speak to this guy for two seconds, but he totally does for quite a while.

I'm glad we didn't get the "I'm homophobic, but why don't you want me???" schtick. Grateful.

Amy--I never found a citation for that quote, just a self-feeding loop of tumblr entries. Jensen said he might have hustled his body for money, and Misha said he's a bottom, but Misha's word is worth approximately minus seven.


§ ita § - Feb 08, 2013 7:25:42 am PST #27567 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

2 random thoughts:

  • Was that really the first time Sam said "son of a bitch"?
  • University means elbow patches, doesn't it? Do they go and buy that especially, or do they have TA disguises tucked just behind FBI in the garment bags we have never seen them carry? Maybe the batcave had some.


Amy - Feb 08, 2013 7:29:26 am PST #27568 of 30002
Because books.

I think it had to be, because it sounded so weird coming out of his mouth.

Maybe the batcave had some.

Oh, maybe. Good call. We know they have robes. God, I loved that his hair was still slightly damp. Dean's settling in at the batcave, dude.


Typo Boy - Feb 08, 2013 7:47:27 am PST #27569 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

If it really has a magic spell that makes in unenterable without a key, plus magic utilities, it could totally be permanently the boys batcave. They will still have to spend time on the road in cheap motels but they will have a home base to come back to.


§ ita § - Feb 08, 2013 8:38:37 am PST #27570 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I loved that his hair was still slightly damp

You know I love his shower priorities. He must have had so many crappy ones--at the very least inconsistent ones.

So many fics have one of them using up all the hot water. I've never stayed in any motel bad enough to use up all the hot water, and I shower pretty epically (although I'm not harbouring any forbidden love for an immortal of another species--that might be the key variable).

One IO9 commenter was worried the motels would go away if they have a home base--I'm not sure why they didn't want to think things through, but hey, fandom is full of humans, so...