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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2013 5:28:55 pm PST #27416 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Never mind what the show is, but being told about casting directors who used a BRA as part of their decision-making process (like, they had a standard bra for all the chicks of the week to fit into) makes me want to cry.

I mean, good lord, I'm not pretending to not like to look at pretty things either, but even in a job that involves visuals this much....that's single minded in a depressing manner.

I tried asking at IO9 if anyone knew what contributed to an incest kink, and to a person, everyone said "taboos are hot!" Now, I had made sure to say right off that I understand that counter-intuitive things like pain, bondage, rape, cheating, etc, I've all heard people give much more explanation for than I've heard for incest. Clearly people get off on taboos, but different taboos give people different rewards, or everyone would just like the same stuff--I'm curious about what this specific taboo gives people, and I don't know if it's because I'm in a fandom where even the people who don't partake take it for granted so it's not articulated, just accepted.

But the flip side is people who are nowhere near it, and think it's "those people" and they can't (or won't) begin to be able to get specific about it.

Right now I'm going with intimacy of some sort, but it's an unformed theory. It just feels like the first applicable adjective.


Amy - Jan 25, 2013 5:40:51 pm PST #27417 of 30002
Because books.

casting directors who used a BRA as part of their decision-making process

I want to ask what show that was, but I'm afraid it will break my heart.

Right now I'm going with intimacy of some sort, but it's an unformed theory.

I think that's pretty accurate in this case. Part of the appeal seems to be that Sam and Dean only have each other, and really only ever had each other, more or less. That their bond is very unique, and uniquely painful, and no one is ever going to truly understand them except each other.


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2013 5:46:16 pm PST #27418 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I get so stuck on heartbreaking with that that I don't get as far as other people's titillation. Which, you know, beautiful cake. But I'm used to being able to see the logic of things I don't feel better than that, so it's frustrating.

Speaking of pictures, I just wandered back into Lily Fox's Supernatural gallery, and lord, is she brilliant. I can only hope that some of these people, many of these people, have achieved whatever they want to be doing with their art, because I can't see how talent could be an issue with her--the things she can do with so few lines. Look how few it took her to convey Dean...


Amy - Jan 25, 2013 6:00:14 pm PST #27419 of 30002
Because books.

Wow, she's fantastic. I had actually seen the "wing-friendly baby clothes" one before, too.

She doesn't always get Dean exactly, although she gets him a lot more often than most people. What is it about Jensen's face that makes him so hard to draw?


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2013 6:39:48 pm PST #27420 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Jensen's face is the epitome of regularity. Fucking bastard. It's a very harmonious arrangement, but you can't exactly drop in signature hair or eyes or nose like Sam or Cas as code for his face.

I'd actually tumblred the wings shirt picture a long time ago, and for some reason people are reblogging it today, which brought her back to my attention, so I went back to her gallery, and I realised I'd also tagged one of her Community pictures: [link] It's a poor picture of Jeff, but a marvellous representation (rather than portrait) of Shirley. And stuff like that background and the colour of the lines are the simple sorts of flourishes that are completely beyond me.


Amy - Jan 25, 2013 7:03:05 pm PST #27421 of 30002
Because books.

But there has to be something! Even if it's just the exact proportions and the slight bump to the nose!

She who cannot draw a thing says.


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2013 7:36:58 pm PST #27422 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The bump in the nose is dangerous--you can't hit it too hard, unlike the ski jump of Jared's nose, or Misha's eyes. Because he still registers as ridic symmetry, and often people leave it out entirely. That leaves you with the eyelids and the lips, pretty much, but again, too much breaks it much faster--I find that most caricatures of him are basically his hair. And even then, people are so sloppy with Misha's hair, there's a colouring issue.

And exact proportions--that's like saying "why not write his exact voice?" If I could, I would. Meanwhile, I'm making do.

eta:

I'm ditching some newly acquired tumblrs. Too much stuff...I couldn't even make it through this [link] for example, or people who say that seeing Dean kiss women is like a slap in the face...uh, if we breathe and not let canon bother us so much, I think the show might get funner.


§ ita § - Jan 26, 2013 6:03:52 pm PST #27423 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Of course, you can always cheat drawing him by hiding his face...

WIP D/C rec: The Way The War Was Won which is an cop AU mashup of a few tropes: fake marriage becomes all too real; friends become lovers; in love long before they knew it; slow burn; etc, but it's nice and patiently written--it's got BAMF!Cas and PTSD!Dean and a nice assembly of supporting cast. Sam was a bit more prominent early on, but even though his presence has receded, he's consistently awesome (despite relationship choices).

Oh, and SPAG isn't glaringly broken.

It's almost finished, the author says.


§ ita § - Jan 29, 2013 9:29:32 am PST #27424 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

On the way into work I was trying to break up Supernatural into goals spanning the season. Like, looking at season 1 as:

  • Goal 1: Find John
  • Goal 1 started: 1.1 Pilot
  • Goal 1 method discovered: never
  • Goal 1 achieved:1.16 Shadow

  • Goal 2: Avenge Mary's death
  • Goal 2 started: 1.16 Shadow
  • Goal 2 method discovered: 1.20 Dead Man's Blood (Colt)
  • Goal 2 achieved: 2.22 All Hell Breaks Loose (Dean)

I admit, I'm kinda wavering on Goal 2 started, for instance. Anyway, I was wondering if the major arcs can be broken down this way, and if there is or isn't a pattern (I suspect there isn't, due to things like Goal 2 spanning 2 season and Eve being killed early--just enough of non-finale major achievements to keep things a little different).

Is this the sign of going too far?


Atropa - Jan 29, 2013 5:10:26 pm PST #27425 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

most crazy fandom (THEY LIKE INCEST)

Wincest is not my beautiful cake, but it is also not the thing that puts SPN in the running for most crazy fandom, either. (But it IS in the running. Dude, I read Fandom Wank. I've seen some of the stuff that's gone down.)