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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


§ ita § - Jan 04, 2013 12:59:51 pm PST #27254 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Beyond pointlessness, what's the issue?

Remember the days when you weren't supposed to talk about slash with cast and crew? I know those days are gone--I've cheerfully broken that rule myself.

But to encourage an assault of numbers on a show's crew to get your way plotwise? I think that's still hugely bad fan manners. Bad people manners. You want Dean and Castiel to be naked friends? Get a job writing for the show, for starters.

I'm not B or O enough (hell, what Q?) for BOFQ, but if I were, I'd rap some knuckles and tell people how to be polite to people who don't work for you, for whom you are not the customer, even if you are the consumer, and let them make the plot-related decisions they want to.

Yes, they already know seven million (loud) people ship any given ship--the difference between D/C and Sterek is that SPN is. in general, a more seasoned fanbase (although TW has enough migrants from other shows that I'm still surprised that they're running through some episodes like it's their first time at the rodeo) AND THE SHOW HAS BEEN LADLING FANSERVICE AT US FOR YEARS.

I feel really strongly that plot decisions don't fall in the hands of fans. And pitching a twitter fit is not going to make a single person on the crew, IMO, think D/C is a better idea than they think right now. That campaign is more likely to have negative results onscreen than positive, and negative results for D/C shipper reputation in specific, SPN or fandom at large in general.

You make it past age 12, you should know to stop screaming at a story to get your way. Fandom took Bela off the show and sent Jo to the cornfield for a good long time--the writers have listened to us way too much so far, and I think that the separation between us and them should be shored up, not peppered with electronic missives.


Amy - Jan 04, 2013 1:46:45 pm PST #27255 of 30002
Because books.

the writers have listened to us way too much so far, and I think that the separation between us and them should be shored up, not peppered with electronic missives

This. And this is purely speculation -- and don't get me wrong, I love him to death -- but I honestly don't know how comfortable JA would be with a canon m/m relationship. For one, I don't think he's all that comfortable doing m/f love scenes.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 04, 2013 4:36:51 pm PST #27256 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Based on stuff I've heard regarding his work on Blonde, I don't think Jensen would have any qualms about it unless he felt it went against established characterization. And given the nature of network TV, I doubt love scenes would ever become an issue—he's probably been more physically affectionate with Misha for the cameras at conventions than the show would ever require if it did go there.


§ ita § - Jan 05, 2013 11:39:01 am PST #27257 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

For one reason or another, his sex scenes are less...naked? Flagrant? Nekkid? Something, anyway, than Jared's. I haven't the least idea why, since I don't think it's important to Dean's characterisation for sex scenes to be rare or particularly missionary. Jensen is one of the notable variables there.


Beverly - Jan 07, 2013 3:37:13 pm PST #27258 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Are we avoiding actor gossip in here to the point nobody's mentioned Jensen and Danneel's news? Pretty exciting for them, they're expecting. Gonna be one pretty child.


Stephanie - Jan 07, 2013 3:38:03 pm PST #27259 of 30002
Trust my rage

I just didn't know. That's exciting news!


JenP - Jan 07, 2013 3:38:58 pm PST #27260 of 30002

Aw, cool!


§ ita § - Jan 07, 2013 3:44:45 pm PST #27261 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was just coming here to mention that in the vague sort of hope it would get it off my dash.

I'm very happy for them, but I don't want to read the made up things. Is there a tumblr plugin that's just-the-pictures, ma'am?

I'd love that.


Beverly - Jan 07, 2013 5:53:37 pm PST #27262 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I don't know of one, ita !, sorry. I could use a couple myself, on one thing or another.

Allow me a moment of schmoop. I remember sitting with my Dad in church--it was practically the only time we had together, since he was working all the time, and I was always with my mom. But he had a nice baritone voice, and I can remember being cuddled up against him while the congregation sang hymns, and how his voice rumbled through his chest. I felt so safe and loved.

I just got a little teary, thinking of Jensen's child sleeping on him, hearing that low rumble and feeling safe.


SuziQ - Jan 07, 2013 5:57:35 pm PST #27263 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

That is the sweetest schmoop.