One thing that does not bother me is Dean being friends with a non-homicidal vampire. I think Lenore established the precedent that they go after monsters for being evil sons of bitches, not for being monsters per se. My spec if Castiel had not killed Lenore they would have left her tied up in a basement. When they got back, if she had still wanted to die, then they would have done a mercy killing.

Morgana, I'm saying that I had a visceral reaction to what Sam was doing too. It wasn't pulse-raiising, but that's what wee established already. If you write an episode which hearkens back to what they did last summer, Sam's is going to be slow and sweet, which is still visceral to me, and Dean's will be savage and bloody.

I also feel that it was the point of the episode, and that wasn't a bad point to have, and that they did it well.

The entire source of the hostility is that their years were very different. Maybe you didn't need/appreciate another episode drilling that home? I liked watching both slices of life, so I'm not mad at Edlund. and I don't believe that Dean got something in the episode tat Sam should have, that Sam was in any way shortchanged or done ill by flashing back and underscoring the year we missed. And we're clearly not done yet, since we don't know exactly how Dean got out, not how Sam did.

So I expect more of that contrast, if not necessarily a whole episode of it (a conversation would be great, and it looks like that hand has been forced) and that the argument will also come to a head. Don't know if they' will reach a detente, or how it would end, but they are pretty much at the full disclosure place now.

I'm very curious at this point about Sam and Amelia. I sort of get what Dean was up to -- it wasn't pretty, and it sucked, and he made himself a friend and then had to referee between Benny and Castiel (which I loved, since that's always been one of Dean's roles). We don't know yet what happened to Cas, but I know that's coming, and I'm willing to let them play it out.

Sam and Amelia, though -- I don't dislike the character, although I'm not sure I love the actress's performance, but I really hope there's more there than what we've seen, because she is a little odd. I mean, she's a vet but she's only been in town a few months and she's still living in a motel? She's a little weird about Sam, too, since yeah, he ran over a dog, but dogs do run out into the road all the time, and it wasn't like he left it there to die. Also, how are plaid shirts and jeans Army/Navy surplus? He's not in fatigues.

I can see that their meet-prickly later turned out to be something good (or did it? that picnic scene was shot in such weird, dreamy color), but I hope there's something more to her than just ... that she's weird and getting over some kind of breakup.

I guess there was a moment for Sam where he completed his read, and instead of grabbings his tools and walking out of her life (let me say--the random coincidence of them being at the same motel, never having seen each other, and this a motel with a nice-enough sofa you sitdown for cuppa an and end up with dog in your lap--where is this, precisely? And I don't mean that in a location card sort of a way.

Anyway--he read her, saw someone who hasn't been as itinerant as he has his whole life, but she is alone. Even if she's not looking for someone, exactly, she's looking for someplace to belong. And I guess that's the beginning of the end for Sam--I knew that was important to him--I just thought he'd found that. With Dean, and in the Impala. And I don't want to be told that's no healthy way to live. I'm not stupid. I'm watching for the unhealthy.

I don't like "angry woman", as Sam called her to Dog, because she snaps at him for no reason, guilt trips him into keeping a dog at a motel, Fuck, it doesn't matter where he's keeping it, you don't just shove dogs at random strangers, even if they're stand up enough to take care of their accidents. At best you're taking advantage of a big heart, at worst, you're fucking up two lives. Jeez.

Yeah--her Army Surplus jibe doesn't really match his clothes. I mean, I guess he could have gotten his jackets there? And I guess the costumers know where those clothes are from? Just--if I were picking an Army for his fashion choices, I'd have gone with Salvation, but either way, you're being douchey about his clothes? What next? Does his mother dress him funny?

I get antagonistic meets. In fact, I LOVE THEM. This was a snippy on one side, guilty on the other side meet, and I guess were going to get to see how Sam's empathy and pulling her out of the shell she's building for herself because of her recent losses, and they both discover they're good for each other, the sex is marvellous, Dog likes them both equally, and they're liking each other and what they have more and more.

Whatever. I need 5 more minutes of Purgatory to feel up to date with their shenanigans, unless they want to give me more sex and eye-sex. Or prickly Cas (I may have to rewatch "I'm not your aunt.." again--he's back!). But I need an idea of how they came back, how hard they tried to bring Cas, ad how it failed. Boom, Dean's done. For Cas, since I'm assuming he does get out, we can cover his continued efforts later.

But Sam needs a whole lot of explanation, and taking me through the beats of a relationship that I don't get yet. Normally, by this point, I'd be all "Hey, I like you, character. I don't understand your choice in partners, but I want your fictional self to be happy." But that's only if it's not causing dissension and strife.

I just...when did they say they'd stop trying to save each other? Did I block that out to save my sanity? Sam said Dean wasn't to save him from the cage because he safety of the world depended on it, and Sam nows Dean didn't listen. Because that hurt, but Dean reacted like it had been said, and that he thought it was clear they were both lying at the time, because that is the WInchester way.

Suffice it to say--this was an odd numbered ep, which means it dealt more with them, and it broke the pattern and I liked it, and it seems clear that next week breaks the even number pattern of not so much being about the brotherly feels.

Man, I wish there were a non--offensive way to say "bros before hos". But that's the upshot, without singling out the woman in question as being of dubious repute--and I'm sure he'd have been as mad if it were a gay relationship--it's a blood is thicker than everything, if I haven't killed you or left you in hell without a second thought.

Damn this ep...the words..

i'm all kinds of bored with Amelia. i care not about how Sam won her over.

Right now, I am kind of hoping she's a demon.

I'm not sure the "we don't save each other" was explicitly said, but I think we can assume that it was sort of agreed on -- Dean was adamant that Sam was not save him from his deal in S3, and in S4 when he came back the first thing he wanted to make sure of was that Sam didn't make a deal to bring him back. Then Sam tells Dean not to retrieve him from the pit in S5, and in S6, they're not separated, so it's a moot point.

But I also still sympathize with Sam being completely out of spoons and without a clue what to do, especially since for the first time he was really and truly alone in the world. (I'd like to count Sheriff Mills, but I'm not sure Sam would really consider her inner circle yet.)

Edited because "on his alone" is not good with the English speaking.

And since I'm here, I guess I'm wondering if the "something more" to Amelia is something supernatural, or supernatural-adjacent.

Right now, I am kind of hoping she's a demon.

the only reason i don't want this is because we've been there and done that and i'm kind of tired of Show making us question Sam's judgement. i mean, he knew instantly what Benny was.

Good point, Tiggy.

I was thinking more along the lines of someone who had been affected by the supernatural, not a demon. Someone he could share that with, aside from Dean. But that also seems kind of unlikely.

The one thing I really don't want, and this is based entirely on him on the laptop saying, "Concern, not stalking," is for the picture perfect relationship with her to have been a fantasy. Because ... that would suck.

But that weirdly color-saturated scene, and whether or not he knew Dean was going to be at Rufus's cabin, are my only really sticking points right now. Because I still think if he was supposed to have known, 98% of their conversation after Dean tackles Sam is unbelievable.