Don't you think you should avoid tagging this story so it shows up in the D/C listing in AO3?

Not necessarily. If it's a key (even if small) part of the story, the author can tag. Some people use tags to avoid pairings they can't stand in any way. I've seen authors get chewed out for not tagging an incidental pairing.

That said, yeah, it would have been nice if the author said "background D/C" in the tags.

I'm actually curious to see how much D/C there is in a story where she seems to so markedly shy away from using Dean's name in the summary. I mean, not referring to events in his life is fine--it's a Sam story. But when you write a summary that means the story could be Adam...well, shit, there's no brother of Sam/anyone pairing important enough for the summary--there should be a way to keep if from distracting the people who are looking for stories with enough D/C in them to trip a detector.

TVGuide asks if Wincest is dead.

I never saw Wincest on the screen, I don't own those slash goggles, so is the writer using it as a sensationalist term for the Jared/Jensen chemistry that translated to such a strong brotherly bond onscreen?

They're using it as shorthand for the brotherly bond. I eyeroll that they have to go to an incest place for that. Lots of people are in it for the bond. Fewer for the brotherfucking.

TVGuide asks if Wincest is dead.

I hope so.

I hope not. I mean, I don't want it to be the face of the fandom, but I think it's a measure of the health of our show/fandom whether us non-partakers like it or not.

Either the people who dig it leave, or the brothers don't have enough isolation, intimacy, and good looks (that kinda covers the angles?) to inspire it anymore. I don't want that sort of fandom exodus, and I don't want the things that make them go there to not be in the show anymore.

And given the reflexive requests for incest fic (like, from looking at a picture of the Hansel and Gretel movie) I guess it's just a bigger kink than I'd ever imagined. I thought it was a Hardy Boys (I now recall this...)/SPN/GOT/HP thing. But by the time there are 4 exceptions, we're not excepting so much any more.

Back in the day, as an x phile you were pretty much a shipper or a No Romo, right? Was there ever a term for people not into Wincest? Even used in the most remote Wincest corners?

To be sure: I want the brothers relationship solid and strong, but I'd like all hints of a sexual relationship with the brothers to die.

They've never had any, though. So there's nothing to change--it's just people filling in the cracks in canon in a way that they enjoy. And if the cracks they are filling in change shape drastically enough they can't do that anymore, I think many of the things *I* enjoy will be gone. They're taking many of the reasons I like watching, and getting their own porn out of it. So and end to Wincest is either an end to the things they're extrapolating from (as in the article) or an end to the fans or those fans' desires.

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