But? There's always a but. When this is over, can we have a big 'but' moratorium?

Fred ,'Smile Time'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


§ ita § - Aug 21, 2012 4:50:40 pm PDT #26214 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I know I've lost it before. I can't work out how I found it the last time, or why I didn't put it in any of my safe places...

It's surely linked to here, for instance, but I couldn't tell you search terms.


§ ita § - Aug 22, 2012 5:28:29 pm PDT #26215 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It seems to be pretty common that when people put vampires into HS Supernatural, they also make them stakable. Hey, if you're going to put angels in then too, shit changes, I get that.

But you are really rarely going to convince me that there's any narrative benefit to changing how vampires are killed. I'm going to chalk that up to unfamiliarity with the canon you chose to write, and that means your porn better be fucking scorching.

AND I FOUND IT!!! And now it's tidily saved where it should be, locally, network, and I'm about to put it on my website. In case you're wondering how I found it, I did a suck of the thread, opened the HTML, wrote a regular expression that extracted every link to a JPG and just clicked my way down. I could have switched it so the page loaded every JPG, but some links were kind of borked, and this was gentler on my bandwidth...and maybe 1.5 of you care. Still, the effort way outweighed the point, but I'm happy as clams can get that I found my hyper Supernatural baby.


Amy - Aug 23, 2012 5:17:21 am PDT #26216 of 30002
Because books.

I remember that picture now. Heh.

It will always be heartbreaking to me that Sam and Dean can't get through one chorus of Silent Night. BOYS.


§ ita § - Aug 23, 2012 7:38:25 am PDT #26217 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's a really accurate state of mind thing. I love freeze frames of baby's psycho faces.

I'm not sure I can get through much more of it, honestly...

I am waging a (full-frontal) Supernatural assault on IO9. A couple days ago, I started a days-to-premiere countdown. I don't know how long I'll last, but I post the number of days left, a picture, and a topic for discussion. Way more people there discuss than this time last year, and that's not just because fans have joined--it seems that when people convert, they post and tell me. And if they're having S1 doesn't taste so good, they ask me what to skip, or if they should skip at all. I'd imagine the other people who are fully in Show fandom are a little irritated by this, but it's pretty clear who's loudest and earliest, so boo.

It felt a little weird and artificial to try and poke conversation here (40 days left) so I didn't try, but these are the three topics I've done so far there:

  • Crowley good or bad for the show (you know what that was borne from)
  • Sad moment, plz illustrate
  • Feelings on S1

If I actually manage 42 Supernatural conversation topics, I want the goldenest star ever.


P.M. Marc - Aug 23, 2012 8:24:28 am PDT #26218 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Feelings on S1

ALL THE FEELS!


Amy - Aug 23, 2012 8:27:08 am PDT #26219 of 30002
Because books.

ALL THE FEELS!

I think it's an essay question, babe.


§ ita § - Aug 23, 2012 8:36:12 am PDT #26220 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

With pictures! Come on! I'd even write a new response, not copy the one from over there. Maybe not until this evening, but I would if other people (40 days) play.


Amy - Aug 23, 2012 9:04:03 am PDT #26221 of 30002
Because books.

S1 will always be one of my favorites, because it's the roots of the show. And looking back it was actually really strong, in terms of the arc, and that killer cliffhanger. It introduced almost everything that the series relies on later -- the origin story, their relationship with their father, their childhood, other hunters (Bobby!), the Impala, demons, all the shades of monster, including human ones, and the big bad thing -- Sam's destiny/powers. And Dean's is always going to be tied into that, because even before John dies I think the boys are learning that when it really comes down to it, they only have each other.

Random things I love about it: the pictures of Sam on the DVDs with the straight-ironed hair; that Jess wasn't conveniently grieved and forgotten moments after she died; that the boys are learning each other all over again after their years apart (but so much about the way they interact is still the same); MISSOURI; how unbelievably young Sam looks; how unbelievably pretty Dean is; nascent Ghostfacers; dying!Dean in the hoodie of pain; Dean in the steam shower; Sam's face when Dean is talking to Michael about being a big brother.


Beverly - Aug 23, 2012 9:29:54 am PDT #26222 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

From a meta POV, the energy of creating something new translated to the screen. Everybody was working to make this new thing a success--from veteran directors who saw something special in the chemistry between the stars and the stories off the quirky mind of this new showrunner to the props guys who had to come up with really interestingly new books and weapons--and beer labels!, to the CGI team, having to create new forms of supernatural beings and phenomena on a tight budget. Everything was trial and error, with an element of risk about it, and everybody dove in with total commitment, working together to pull the show through to its first renewal.

And the stars were discovering their characters and making up backstory for them and the relationship between them at the same time they were learning about each other, picking up each other's rhythms and working methods and strengths and foibles both onscreen and off.

S2 will always be my favorite season, because the show came back! Validation they had done something right enough to be renewed for S2! They had found the characters and the strengths of the mythos, but things were still open enough to fill in some backstory. The relationship between the actors and the characters was solid enough for the writers to be more demanding--and they were writing *for* these specific actors now, so the characterisations were strong and solid. S2 had some of the most demanding writing for the actors to portray, revelatory of their characters, backstory, and the actors' depth and ability. And some of the deepest mythbuilding for the series ongoing.

But there's something wildcat, gambling, reckless, and wholehearted about S1 that for me, at least, is irresistible.


§ ita § - Aug 23, 2012 11:19:24 am PDT #26223 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not at a physical keyboard, so I'm delayed, not reneging.