Could we quote fic and stuff? Not that there's a whole lot that paints John favorably, but I don't know how to make graphics.
Wait, that won't work, we're looking for canon. Duh.
Oh, I'm gonna go to the special hell.
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Amy - Aug 15, 2012 9:39:44 am PDT #26132 of 30002
Because books.
§ ita § - Aug 15, 2012 9:56:49 am PDT #26133 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
No! Any fic you find that does John well, I'll link to (a John-centric blurb would be nice, but that's asking a lot, I dig). Any good John art, I'll reblog or post. Any fanwork, canon, meta dissection, hot picture of JDM or Matt, ANYTHING. Go Sir nuts.
Amy - Aug 15, 2012 10:01:05 am PDT #26134 of 30002
Because books.
Go Sir nuts. I like that. Awesome.
SuziQ - Aug 15, 2012 10:19:25 am PDT #26135 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame
And I read that as "Go Sir's nuts". Which....yeah.
Amy - Aug 15, 2012 10:27:42 am PDT #26136 of 30002
Because books.
Well, also very true. They did help spawn Sam and Dean after all.
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 15, 2012 12:56:31 pm PDT #26137 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Also responsible for Adam, so not batting 1000.
Amy - Aug 15, 2012 12:58:40 pm PDT #26138 of 30002
Because books.
Well, Adam wasn't a villain. He was just a surprise, and that could have been either John or his mother's fault.
Typo Boy - Aug 15, 2012 1:13:51 pm PDT #26139 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Since John knew about him, his being a surprise to Sam & Dean was definitely John's fault. His being a surprise could have been *additionally* the mother's fault, but was definitely John's.
§ ita § - Aug 15, 2012 2:19:23 pm PDT #26140 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Not being a Winchester isn't a crime. It's just an unfortunate situation in which we all find ourselves. Why judge Adam more harshly for it?
Typo Boy - Aug 15, 2012 2:27:13 pm PDT #26141 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
I don't understand people harshing on Adam for not being a Winchester either. (Actually, since he was John's kid he WAS a Winchester. He just never got the training, but still had the target on his back.) I do think John should have told the boys, including Adam. Even if he could not have told the whole truth, ghosts and demons and monsters are hard to prove, he could said there were bad guys after me who might come after you and given both Adam and Mom some training. If there was a convenient ghost or monster in the area to demonstrate the reality of the supernatural, then he could have told them the whole truth - which would have been better.