To me, Lucifer's "this" included him having the run of the planet, and Dean trying to brute force a solution with no real solution in his pocket. And that there was no way he could get around losing his brother to Lucifer (as opposed to with).

But I have no particular dog in the fight of whether it was a future or not. I just really really don't want it to happen, because then the central destiny/choice debate that we had for at least a season would be moot. I think it's important to the narrative that destiny be avoided, as opposed to bittersweet or just plain bitter that it can't.

Heh. This discussion is making me want to listen to Rush.

I'm reading this terrible summer camp AU where the author keeps switching pov every paragraph, sometimes within the same paragraph, and backing up in time to account for the other persons thoughts on and reactions to the scene playing out. Even mid-conversation, the next paragraph will be the other character thinking about and responding to what was said two or three paragraphs ago instead of the immediately preceding one.

I think the explanation for that is that it's written by two people. Dollars to doughnuts it's being done RP style. And they're both under 20. There it's no emotional awareness in that story at all.

Supernatural's most badass weapons.

I'm not sure why they mention that Dean didn't invent the salt round for the shotgun, and don't mention he made the EMF meter out of a Walkman.

And they do get the Latin on the Colt wrong--it's non timebo mala. Also, they get it with five bullets, not seven.

Not sure why the angel swords are called Lucifer's sword--is that from canon? I mean, they've all got one.

Okay, what episode is the snark illo from? I love that!

And it's ipecac.

Uh...which isn't to say I didn't like it. I just...pick.

I think the snark picture is from Bad Day at Black Rock, shortly before or after he says he's Batman.

I've realized I should probably step back from the show sometimes. Castiel just sliced open his arm to make the angel-banishing sigil in Lucifer Rising, and I sat here thinking, "One day I need to do that, because I need to see if it would really bleed that much that quickly."

Uh. Maybe not?

I may or may not have a reasonably accurate opinion that there's no way they're cutting deeply enough to get that much blood to well that quickly.

But I'm visualising Dean slicing his arm to attract vampires--I don't remember the speed Cas bled at.

I think the snark picture is from Bad Day at Black Rock, shortly before or after he says he's Batman.

Didn't he throw a remote control then? I'm having problems remembering him with two guns like that, but it's definitely a Bad Rock face.

He threw a remote, but also a pen, which jammed one of the guns aimed at him. I think maybe the guy fell, and the gun went flying and Dean caught it? I'd have to rewatch.

Cas pushed it maybe a quarter inch into his arm, and it dripped down over the side, really dark and thick, immediately. I always think it should be redder at first.

I have no idea why I'm thinking about it, either.

Pie:

One of my favorite moments in Lucifer Rising is when Dean bursts in. He and Sam don't even speak, but Dean has the knife out, and like they practiced it, Sam grabs Ruby so Dean can kill her. Just beautiful teamwork, completely unspoken.