Zombie-ghost orgy is from It's the Great Pumpkin, Sam Winchester, and the stick figure drawing is from Dead in the Water.

"Non-conned" like ... raped?

Okay, that was Dean's drawing he was showing to Lucas?

Metaphorically raped, I guess. She really just meant "forced". "Non-conned" was totally jarring.

Yeah, Dean's picture.

I knew rape wasn't exactly what I wanted, but for whatever reason I couldn't come up with coerced.

I'm wondering why I can remember Lucas and Andrea Barr, and I can't remember what picture Dean drew. I remember all of Sam's drawings! (inconsistent as they are...)

Because you're a bad, bad fan, I assume.

::runs away::

I wonder how long the corn syrup problem is going to last when S8 starts. Or if we know how far it had spread.

Read a post-S7 story where Sam lists Don Stark as a possible ally, and I wonder if that could be true. Of course, I had to look up who he was first, but still. I could see it, although I bet they won't go there. Between Garth and Jody Mills and the Alpha and Crowley and Meg, we already have a lot of recurring characters.

Yeah, Amy, that was a thought that crossed my mind: whatever happens with the remaining Leviathans, the shit they put into production is going to remain in society for awhile. Hell, unless the company goes under, their legacy could continue with unsuspecting employees manufacturing their cattle-feed sucrose until some human steps in and changes the formula. Then again, if the greater populace didn't notice the sudden dumbing down of fellow citizens, they probably will continue to not notice (or maybe everyone but the vegans and organic/free-range/all-natural consumer noticed).

New hunters are born, and they're all vegetarians. Dean will be appalled. Yet understanding.

I never understood why Sam & Dean never tried to make the Starks allies. Yeah, not exactly safe. But they know how to put Leviathans under with a short spell. Hell, at the very least they could have found something Don wanted in return for teaching them the spell!

unless the company goes under

They're rudderless now, and we also left with the expectation that Sam would destroy the factory. Do you think it'll be likely he failed?

I don't really expect much from them in terms of leaving ongoing danger from the Leviathans. It felt to me like they were taking the thunder out of them, leaving stronger than usual monsters, but no big conspiracy or anything.

I really don't hope they work with the Starks. What I don't understand is why they didn't kill them. Amy doesn't get to live, but they do? Did they even make any promises? That episode was a miss for me. I know they seem to hamstring them when it comes to witches, but I really don't see why, other than meta-hesitation to kill humans. If they could use lethal force against Benders, is it a matter of them being overpowered?

But it's not even a Crowley-esque situation.

I don't know. It all left a sour taste in my mouth.

I got a reply to a comment today that I hadn't remembered writing--I don't even remember the fic. Which is nice, because I got to read it again like it was the first time, but...kinda weird. It was only a couple weeks ago.

There's a WIP I'm reading right now that's remarkably off target. It's not like she's wildly bad, with massive spag problems, but she has no idea how to pace, there's no rhythm in the narrative, no accuracy with the voice, and it also feels like she really just doesn't understand people. Her high school AU painting the Novaks (all the angels and demons) as the privileged kids is just all over the place. I mean, they're supposed to be human, as far as I can tell, but I'm gathering this chick has never met people.

And she's 12. I mean, anything to explain her limited perspective. But I can't look away.

I don't want them work with the Starks now. But once they decided to let them live (because they were too tough to kill and it was likely to turn out with the boys, not the Starks dead) I don't know why they did not turn them into allies or at least make a short term deal for the "stun leviathan" spell.