Something like what?
Angels are watching over you. I got the impressions that hunters didn't believe in God and angels, just the easy bits like demons, and even they weren't something the Winchesters were expert with at the start of the show.
These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.
Jayne ,'The Train Job'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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§ ita § - Jun 07, 2012 9:42:25 am PDT #25444 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Amy - Jun 07, 2012 9:45:02 am PDT #25445 of 30002
Because books.
Oh, sorry. Yeah, I agree.
Time travel -- in your continuity, screwing it up.
§ ita § - Jun 07, 2012 2:26:32 pm PDT #25446 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I totally think this looks like West: [link]
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Amy - Jun 07, 2012 2:37:55 pm PDT #25447 of 30002
Because books.
Oh my god. Is that the kid from Pet Sematary?
§ ita § - Jun 07, 2012 3:00:27 pm PDT #25448 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Yes. And I totally think they're kindred on a number of levels.
Amy - Jun 07, 2012 5:03:15 pm PDT #25449 of 30002
Because books.
Oh dear. (Vicki, run!)
I mean, I figure Misha has to be the one teaching him the bad behavior ...
Amy - Jun 08, 2012 7:01:29 am PDT #25450 of 30002
Because books.
Do you think it was harder for Dean to come back from hell, knowing what he'd done, with those memories, or for Buffy to come back from heaven?
Also, the idea that Dean was in hell for longer than he'd been alive on earth is really heartbreaking.
§ ita § - Jun 08, 2012 8:17:28 am PDT #25451 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think Dean came back hating himself and Buffy came back hating her friends.
And I think the latter is easier to get over, because you don't change. Something has to happen to give you more insight and acceptance of yourself. But if it's other people that you hate, they can explain themselves, apologise, win back your trust and love.
Besides, Buffy loved those guys. Dean never loved himself.
lcat - Jun 08, 2012 8:57:58 am PDT #25452 of 30002
I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night.
Amy, I really liked your essay - you did an excellent job of pulling bits and pieces of various episodes into an entertaining analysis of sacrifice. It got me thinking that it doesn't seem that Dean is still willing to sacrifice himself and I'm wondering why. Sam is concerned that he is reckless but I think that is resignation and frustration, not sacrifice. I don't think he has more self-esteem than he did in Season 2 but I think that his decision not to be self-sacrificial after Sam went to hell was more than just complying with Sam's request - he ignores Sam's directions on a regular basis. Has he decided it is futile? Does that make him less heroic?
§ ita § - Jun 08, 2012 9:05:59 am PDT #25453 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Do you mean he thinks it's futile to be self-sacrificial?
I'm still mostly of the belief the reason he didn't dissolve into a downward spiral of alcohol abuse and risky behaviours was because of the promise, myself.