Juliebird: It's been too long since I've seen the episode for me to mount a reasoned argument for you. But I do need to ask, why are you assuming that Daphne is broken, crazy, and using dubcon tactics? Or is that in response to the specific fic that you read?

On edit: because it seems that the crazy comes just from being a widow. As if being a widow automatically makes her nuts. Which, no.

Even now, people get married for a lot of reasons other than True Love -- pity, cooperation, money, all kinds of things. It's a shame we don't see what happened to Daphne, but she was also a character in the storyline for about two minutes. And the sad truth is, lots of spouses walk out the door and never look back, so I don't expect to see it addressed again.

My basic take is that a God-fearing woman found a naked amnesiac man in what she felt were miraculous circumstances. She chooses his name, or maybe helps him pick his own..."God is with us" Is too on the nose for me, anyway.

In my head, she's the sort of woman who would join a convent, but just never did, because she wanted to be more of a part of the world, or something--basically a woman who not take poorly to god giving her the responsibility to take care of this broken man.

When I start overthinking it, they never sleep together, but sometimes they share a bed. Their kisses are chaste gestures of tenderness--that's what they have between them, an amazing sweetness and sincerity, and the belief that god is why this whole thing happened.

I hadn't worked it all the way through to the end, but it makes it easier for her to let him go--maybe this is the next step. She's healed him, and now God is taking him to where he's needed first. A man coming to her door and saying that he needs to drive off with him...that's the will of god, and who is she to resent that ormake a fuss.

Doesn't mean she doesn't miss him, but it's not the mourning of a wife for a husband--not just because she thinks he's alive still and also doing good works.

I'm mystified (not unusual for me, I know).... on my flist I just came across something about a campaign on Tumblr to show love for Misha, in reaction to some kind of hate campaign going on against him on Twitter. I'm not on Twitter or Tumblr, so what gives? I thought everyone pretty much universally liked him, what with all his charity work and fan-friendliness and everything.

Apparently some crazy fans (former fans) were planning a hate campaign to try and get Misha fired. I have no idea why, unless it relates to that video of the con, since Jensen says that Misha was the one to say their lines were unmanly.

With fans like those ...

What?

Are SPN fans craxier than most? Or am I just old?

I have no idea if that's the reason they're mounting the "hate campaign," but it's the only explanation I can think of.

I've encountered a lot of people online who think that Misha is a selfish attention whore whose effect on both the key component of the show (brotherhood) and the Js themselves in real life is entirely negative.

I've heard some amazing shit about what an asshole he is for how he runs the Haiti charity, the scavenger hunt, his sarcastic tweets--everything.

I am deliberately trying to avoid that sentiment.

Yes, the Haiti charity is a total dickhead move. @@

He's sucking all the attention to himself, see? Otherwise people would give money to a "real" charity, not a silly charity with celebrity involvement.

Also, there was something wrong with inviting people down to build, and there is both too much and too little transparency into how the money is spent.

Pretty much the arguments are silly enough that I get vicarious embarrassment reading them. Fine, you hate the guy. But please stick to "Well I just do!" instead of trying to support it with porous logic.