Oh, no, oh, no! Spontaneous poetic exclamations. Lord, spare me college boys in love.

Dr. Walsh ,'Potential'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Kristen - May 26, 2012 9:39:41 pm PDT #25322 of 30002

You're writing as you go, and you have to scripts ready to shoot, so at some point, the question of "Is this character a good idea?" becomes moot, and you just have to finish a script and film it. (Kristen could say way more about this than I can, since I'm doing a lot of assuming.)

Late to the party. Writing for TV is like trying to hit a moving target. (I'm pretty sure someone else said that first but it's true.) And, as the season goes on, the target moves faster and faster.

My first episode of last season, I spent six weeks on the story and the outline and I think I had almost three weeks to write my script. End of the season? From initial concept to script in less than two weeks. The draft was written in six days. (There were other episodes where multiple writers had to pitch in because there were only 3 or 4 days to write the script.)

So that's the first part. The second part is this:

You don't have the luxury of looking at the finished season and saying, "You know what, this isn't really going where we wanted it to, so let's scrap it."

So much this. We start out every season with a plan. We know our endpoint and some of the big tent pole stops along the way. But then you start production and shit happens. You have a great character but you can't get the actor you want or you get the actor you want and they suck or you get the actor you want and they're great but when you try to bring them back, they're not available. Stories that seemed great in the room turn out to be a giant yawn on screen. Etc.

So you're forced to improvise along the way. But that's not always a bad thing. One of our best episodes of this past season was an improvisation. As we were breaking the episode, we found out we weren't going to be able to do the story we had planned. So we threw it out and, in two days, came up with a new story.

There are so many times you wish you could go back and fix things but it's the way of television. You have to keep the plates spinning. With all that said, there are many reasons why a certain storyline or character wouldn't be included in the recap. The most obvious reason is time. You get 42 minutes -- including your recap. Every second you use for that recap is one less second you get in your actual episode. So you cut anything you consider non-essential to the story you're about to tell. You cut and splice (and sometimes even revoice dialogue) to make your recaps as short and to the point as you can.

There's also the reality that, if you hated the way a story turned out, you just want to cut your losses and move on. I have personally taken that position once or twice.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 26, 2012 10:25:03 pm PDT #25323 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oh, I don't begrudge the absence of Amy in the finale recap so much as her lingering presence in what seemed like about 45 episodes after the one in which she was killed. At least Bobby being talked about long after his death felt reasonable to me given how big a part of the brothers' lives he became.


§ ita § - May 27, 2012 5:39:01 am PDT #25324 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If my sister killed a friend of mine that I didn't want to kill, in fact was pretty deliberately protecting, you can bet it's going to be an issue between us for a couple of months.

As betrayals go, that's pretty high up on my list of possibles. She's free to hit the foxhole with any of my exes she wants, but don't kill the guy I had a crush on in high school, please?


Amy - May 27, 2012 7:09:00 am PDT #25325 of 30002
Because books.

If my sister killed a friend of mine that I didn't want to kill, in fact was pretty deliberately protecting, you can bet it's going to be an issue between us for a couple of months.

I think it was compounded by Sam feeling like Dean was being the all-knowing older brother again, and not trusting Sam to make the right decision. And Sammy don't like that.

I did think that Dean's motivation for killing her was really weak -- he didn't even work the case. And there's precedent for not killing, going back to Lenore. So in the end, I think it was a storyline that got shoehorned in to provide some brotherly conflict in a season where there wasn't much.


§ ita § - May 27, 2012 7:11:20 am PDT #25326 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I saw it in character for Dean. He's hypocritical about this shit (cf making deals with Crowley), and she was killing people. I at least figured he'd done that much due diligence--partially because he was right. Lenore had "I'm not doing it now" to add to her "I won't do it ever". Amy had clearly gone against her word for something more important.

Also, perhaps Dean understands he will kill people at the drop of a hat for Sam, so why wouldn't she do that for her charge?

(I did mention the hypocrite thing, right?)


Amy - May 27, 2012 7:13:03 am PDT #25327 of 30002
Because books.

Also true. Oh, DEAN.

This conversation is weird, though, because every time I see "Amy," I think, What did I do?!


§ ita § - May 27, 2012 7:16:03 am PDT #25328 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

YOU KILLED PEOPLE.

(that never happens to me. I just sit around, mooning...)


Amy - May 27, 2012 7:20:21 am PDT #25329 of 30002
Because books.

Well, I usually try not to ...


quester - May 27, 2012 8:03:49 am PDT #25330 of 30002
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

It's not your fault, Amy. It's just your nature.


Amy - May 27, 2012 8:05:11 am PDT #25331 of 30002
Because books.

That's what they tell me ...

Wow, hiatus feels long already.