May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Juliebird - May 21, 2012 1:42:31 pm PDT #25197 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

What I want to see in Show and what I want to see in fic are quite different.

In fic, whump with consequences is my . . . kink? I guess. And because I'll never really adequately have that in Show, I don't expect it or wish desperately for it there. Not H/C, mind you, because the emphasis is always on the comfort that usually ends up being sexual in nature, or fluffy.

But In Show, yeah, prank wars and geekiness.

And competence in both Show and fic.


Amy - May 21, 2012 1:42:41 pm PDT #25198 of 30002
Because books.

What a silly question. I also want to see more brothers being brothers.

I want to go on record as saying I do not need to see Dean (or anyone) puking on the show, or in fic, for that matter. That's ... really weird.

Actually, did you mean in fic or on the show?


§ ita § - May 21, 2012 1:54:58 pm PDT #25199 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wasn't actually thinking of them separately. I guess I was assuming that lame!Dean and puke!Dean would also be welcomed on TV, which is unsupported.

I don't know if I have any different wishes other than--gimme all the D/C fic in the world, but it's probably quite safest if that never happens onscreen. However, I read so much fic that doesn't meet my criteria in any other way that I might consider myself irretrievably tainted. I can't tell what distinguishes between a fic I finish and one I don't, because I have been reading some horrible shit recently, but still not *all* the D/C.

Hell, Sam just gave birth to Gabriel's baby, and I thought "Oh, well, I've gotten this far..."

For the puking record, also: no puking, please. But this person had a general love of Dean in gastrointestinal distress.


Amy - May 21, 2012 2:00:12 pm PDT #25200 of 30002
Because books.

I came across an author who seemed to write nothing but sick!Dean. Generally sneezy, feverish, needing to be cuddled Dean, with Sam stepping up manfully. Bizarre. Every. single. fic. included it.

Hell, Sam just gave birth to Gabriel's baby, and I thought "Oh, well, I've gotten this far..."

Oh, honey.


Juliebird - May 21, 2012 2:03:19 pm PDT #25201 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Show and fic serve different needs for me. I actually am less likely to read a fic if it tries to adhere too closely to canon or rewrite it. Because, man, Show is dark and depressing, and I don't generally want epic fics that try to tackle a given seasons Big Bad. But I do love case fics (MOTW style) (because that means a good whodunit to wrap the character stuff around). It goes back to my love of AUs, where fic doesn't mess too much with Show canon and mess with my head.


§ ita § - May 21, 2012 2:15:31 pm PDT #25202 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I came across an author who seemed to write nothing but sick!Dean. Generally sneezy, feverish, needing to be cuddled Dean, with Sam stepping up manfully.

When I first started binging, before my ship needs crystallised, I was plowing through...K Hanna Korossy? Something like that. And she was straight up gen casefiles, with added cuddling. It was so weird. And her monsters were totally ho hum, but they'd beat the shit out of Sam and Dean, and then they'd need to patch each other up and share a bed! Again!

We are so weird.

Oh, honey.

Yeah, kinda that...

I don't mind canon and fic intersecting, although I can only remotely tolerate S/G in AU. And there are some canon things I hate being experimented with (birth order or age gap, most commonly, and then after that--randomly not killing people who die in canon, and either of the boys being angels (unless it's a boys-are-angels angels-are-hunters straight swap)), so maybe I'm less exploratory than many?


Amy - May 21, 2012 2:25:53 pm PDT #25203 of 30002
Because books.

And there are some canon things I hate being experimented with (birth order or age gap

Yes. Dean is older. Always. Has to be.

I'd actually like to see more "what if" stuff as is breaks off from canon. Like, what happens if Dean doesn't make the deal for Sam? What happens if Dean does die and Sam can't save him (which I wrote, actually)? What if John had died in Sam's nursery instead of Mary? Just to twist it up a little.


§ ita § - May 21, 2012 2:54:41 pm PDT #25204 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not sure there's a bright line I can explain between a "what if" and a "I hate canon". You know when someone just pretends something didn't happen, but doesn't really explain why, or explore the ramifications? Mostly that irritates me. It's not coded to soothe my id, and it's almost like an allergen instead.

If Dean left Lisa earlier, why? Don't just tell me she kicked him out for no reason, or her caught her cheating and you just need to get him directly in bed with Cas. Make there be some point to it.

I couldn't keep reading the hurt!Dean prompts. They were hurting him too much, and one trope especially was hard to read--detox!Dean. Because I'm so attached to him being a functional alcoholic, and unless he works out how fermentation works in Purgatory or Cas does some Jesus tricks...realistically he would be kinda fucked, wouldn't he? I've been feeling oddly guilty about that idea since the finale (and knowing that Steph's brother is doing it for real, of course) and I can't decide if I want canon to deal or not.

However, if you are interested in the h/c, the prompt is here: [link] I've only scanned the first page, and I didn't see any fills, but there are at least 6 pages there now.

which I wrote, actually

Oh, don't think I don't remember, and that it still doesn't hurt.


Amy - May 21, 2012 3:23:55 pm PDT #25205 of 30002
Because books.

Yeah, when authors just change things they clearly don't like with no explanation, that's usually a non-starter for me. If you're going to veer off canon, have a reason for it, and use it well.

Detox!Dean is a little more hurt than I want, too. I also can never ever read any evil!Winchester of either type.


§ ita § - May 21, 2012 3:30:15 pm PDT #25206 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Evil!Winchesters are a tossup for me--I clearly adored that scaramouche story where they were all sociopaths...good god, did I ever like that...

I think if it's a more relatable scale of evil, or if only one brother is bad, then not so much.

I also couldn't get into Dean/Godstiel past the initial "on your knees and blow me" premise. Levia!Cas D/C neither.