Doesn't explain why Pops Campbell ended up there though.

Hey, maybe Bobby is delaying crossing over because he really doesn't want to see John again. He's all "Shit, I don't want to tell him what his kids..the soul...the torture...gay interspecies sex..."

Yeah, that makes sense.

It was forseen that someday he would have Winchesters as descendents. That makes him retroactively a Winchester.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the line of Campbells from the Mayflower to now would be a little miffed at that reduction.

Yup. Since it would mean that all Campbells go to hell as well. And no, not a serious theory.

Misha-led sneak peek: [link]

Another question--did Mary go to heaven? I just read a bit of a fic that assumed an exception had been made for her, and she'd gone.

To me, since she didn't actually sell her soul, she didn't guarantee a downward trip. But this author seems to think that making a deal with a crossroade demon is all you have to do, no matter what you planned to give up to them,

Thoughts?

While I don't think the deal was a morally pure choice, Mary generally did everything for the people she loved, and gave up her life (or pseudo-life) twice fighting to protect her kids. I'm going to assume she went Upstairs upon cancelling out that poltergeist unless the show proves otherwise. She definitely did't get dragged downward just by virtue of having made a deal, she was still haunting the house she died in decades after the fact.

John's fate is more ambiguous since he went to Hell per an agreed-upon deal, but the Season 2 finale seemed to indicate there was hope for him as well.

The hunter's funeral seems to be used to minimise the chances of someone coming back, not eliminate it, obviously. Since we've seen it flouted many a time. It seems is there would be a choice between the ghost being tied to their body or a thing, they take a thing--I'm trying to remember if there were precisely experiences where a) there were remains that the boys find and b) they destroy the remains and c) the spirit turns out to have been attached to something inanimate the whole time.

I can think of situations in which they burnt the wrong person's stuff--what about the right person?

Could a ghost jump? Or be attached to a bunch of stuff, so you have to get it all?

But, Bobby got the fire, he came back/didn't go.

Sampa must have had a hunter's funeral. I like to imagine that Mary called in her hunting relatives and helped do them right by the community. Which is confusing me more about what got brought back. I would have thought he'd be burnt and in heaven and he's back not even just a spirit, but reasonably well integrating into the world.

Did the rest of Campbells not do any tests? I mean, he was going to pass them, but one thing for sure -- this isn't a "I ran to the nearest crossroad with blood on my hands to get him back before he was even cooling". It's been FOREVER. I might have refused to hunt with him on principle, because it just can't be good. Maybe that happened. Maybe those people are still alive. So there are really far away Campbell relatives.

Now I'm imaging John trying to take care of her parents' bodies in the way he knows how, but she's insisting on very careful cremation, and he thinks it's weird. Maybe she's so distraught and ready to move on past hunting, especially after the demon thing that she purposely casts it away and they are only buried nornally. She's going to shut the (coffin) lib on them, and then she's done. No more salting, no charms, nope.

DONE. That would can go fuck iitself. She's going to focus on her new job (I don't know what it is, but bear with me she gets a new one) and her husband, and their first house, and just move on past that ship.

John wonders what that tattoo was and she brushes it off as having been a wild child teen ("With Samuel Campbell in the house!??!?") and now she's settling down. She's still a little wilder than him anyway.

It appears I just got a lotta pre-series feels.

Hmmm, we're moving to Wednesdays . . . paired with Arrow.

Interesting.

I have a class on Wednesdays!

But I don't know if I'll still have it in the autumn. We'll see.

What we were paired with before Nikita? Was there anything before Smallville and Nikita?

I wonder why they're so definitely not pairing us with Vampire Diaries again...but I can see where the synergy with Beauty and the Beast comes, but since there are five hundred million screaming hormone-swirling females¹ watching Show...why not?

¹: Yeah, I know, you don't fall into that group. Bear with me.