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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


§ ita § - May 14, 2012 8:12:43 am PDT #25061 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I *love* that he's wearing his trench coat over his hospital whites. It shows him both caring and not caring about his appearance at the same time.


§ ita § - May 14, 2012 2:15:03 pm PDT #25062 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I forgot that you guys don't post and that it's me in here tapdancing for an empty room.

Well, in my obituary, don't say I didn't share the good stuff.


Juliebird - May 14, 2012 2:24:32 pm PDT #25063 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Cas in his hospital whites and his trenchcoat seems so right.

Man, it's tragic, the epic love story of Dean and his angel. It's not going out with a bang. It's a painful slow ddeath of growing apart.

  • Ahem*

I was really bugged by the in-show discrepancies of Bobby and his flask and his range.

Dean looked like such a little boy in his first scene with Bobby. *smish*

I thought it was a continuity error when the Alpha's henchmen brought out the champagne in the ice bucket. Oh clever writers! He switched out the ice for borax!

I'd bitch about the boys flipflopping on their stances re: Bobby, but that just reads like a day in my life where a sitch is presented to me and my boss, I feel one way, she feels another. Come morning, I've argued myself into accepting her point of view, only to have her agree that my gut reaction was the right reaction (and vice versa).

I am still a little pissy at the boys for pissing and moaning about Bobby going poltergeist, and not actually doing anything about it. I can't help but think that Joss would've had a very special episode where the boys gank Bobby (or attempt to, and whozamawhatzit gets in the way and Bobby lingers on).


§ ita § - May 14, 2012 2:39:01 pm PDT #25064 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Are you surprised that they're both treating him more like a person than an infestation right now? He could cruise on the guilt of that for a long time--no matter how convinced Sam is right now, for instance, I doubt he'd pull an Amy and gank him behind Dean's back--and not just because of Amy either. I'm sure Sam wishes there's some way he could get Bobby to agree it's the best thing for him, but until even more than an arm gets broken for less cause, I'd be *really* surprised to see either of them take independent action.

Part of me wants him to step up and sacrifice himself or walk on over to the other side, and another wants him to blow himself up in his violent vengeance.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how awful either of the boys would feel if they have to exorcise him against his will.

Oh, hey...wanna lay down bets on a cliffhanger ending? I think we were relatively lucky last year, and I bet we're going to be spanked thoroughly this Friday.


Juliebird - May 14, 2012 2:54:18 pm PDT #25065 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I don't think I'm surprised that they're pulling their punches since it's Bobby. But they keep talking and talking about what to do with him, and not doing anything. And I get it. It's Bobby. They keep letting each other be bad cop that the good cop gets to talk down from doing something drastic (or the other way around, depending on how you feel about the Bobby situation). On one hand it's modus operandi with how they deal with family and flaunting their own rules. On the other, they have lived through the consequences of flaunting their own rules, have seen what comes of making deals and dabbling in the grey when it comes to loved ones.

To me it feels a bit like using a sticky trap to get rid of a mouse. Hey, it doesn't kill the mouse, so I don't have to feel bad. Except that now the mouse has twisted its little paws around, ripped off its tail and whiskers, and is dying slowly of pain, dehydration, and starvation. And suffocation --if you put it in the garbage bag. Instead of manning up to what you are doing (killing a mouse) and snapping it's little neck with a proper mouse trap.

But, I'm sure that their procrastination will end up revealing something new and special about the supernatural that they didn't know before, and they'll end up being right in letting Bobby "live".


§ ita § - May 14, 2012 2:58:38 pm PDT #25066 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Narratively, I want to lay money down on Bobby passing over and never coming back, even if it's not this Friday. However, I suspect the show is sentimental enough that I'm still scared we'll see Gabriel again, so there's that...


Matt the Bruins fan - May 14, 2012 3:31:38 pm PDT #25067 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Given that at least two of the current dramatis personae are fully capable of restoring Bobby to life, it's possible that another solution besides going out in a blaze of glory will present itself.


§ ita § - May 14, 2012 4:58:31 pm PDT #25068 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Are you counting Crowley in that number? For some reason, I feel like that window has past. Tho, he's been surprising before, what with the legs.

I will be disappointed if either boy asks for it, especially Dean.

That's another question for the end of the season--what will Meg and Crowley's relative status be?

Another unsubstantiated "feeling" is that Cas will reach some sort of balance (if not full S4 brand sanity) and still have powers.

Can't wait to find out, except for the whole bit with the no more new episodes for yonks.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 15, 2012 10:51:06 am PDT #25069 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Are you counting Crowley in that number? For some reason, I feel like that window has past. Tho, he's been surprising before, what with the legs.

Yep. He brought Grampa Campbell back without anyone needing a deal to set it in motion, so theoretically he's capable of doing the same for Bobby if he has motivation to.


§ ita § - May 15, 2012 11:02:03 am PDT #25070 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I consider that resurrection of Samuel to be grossly ill handled. You have a demon raising someone to make a deal to raise someone--that's dirty pool. And crossroads demons shouldn't need to cheat.

What is Sampa's real motivation here? What has changed for/happened to him that he'll kill his daughter's children to get his daughter back? Where has he been for the past 37 years that he wants to pluck her from presumable heaven to live on earth and *deny* her the children she barely got to know? Where does he think she's been this whole time?

I seriously want to know what how that conversation went.

(I figure he, who never really liked John, must have *hated* him thinking he'd raised Robo!Sam--but he must have a very different view of John than he had previously held)

That shit is way too complicated.