This girl at school? She told me that gelatin is made from ground-up cow's feet and that every time you eat Jell-O there's some cow out there limping around without any feet. But I told her that I'm sure the cow is dead before they cut its feet off, right?

Dawn ,'Never Leave Me'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Morgana - May 04, 2012 4:33:06 pm PDT #25001 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I could really have done without the inclusion of the angels again. I am enjoying The Prophet Kevin though.


Amy - May 04, 2012 5:30:02 pm PDT #25002 of 30002
Because books.

Cas is like 2014!Cas without the drugs! I think I like it.

The game of Sorry was priceless. Also, "pull my finger".

Sam worrying about Cas almost killed me. And Dean's heartbreak when he was telling Kevin about the angels was exquisitely painful.


Juliebird - May 04, 2012 5:37:19 pm PDT #25003 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'm definitely gonna have to rewatch that. Castiel has gone through so many personalities, and here's yet another one. Totally Jossed, what's been up with Cas. It's hard wrapping my head around this new guy. And beyond adjusting to someone who is here and gone, my gut reaction is that there isn't logic in it, in Cas being this.

So, rewatch necessary.

Oh god, when he hung his head after Dean chucked the Sorry game. And oh god again when he questioned Sam saying he'd get him better (there's nothing wrong with me, pardon?)

I don't mind the brief resurgence of the angels, especially since they were dealt with within the ep, not leading to a bigger involvement in the future. But also, so long as Cas is still in the picture, other angels might not be far behind.

So, the maguffin, whatnot. Why would the Leviathans uncover the recipe to their demise? Is there an alternate use of what is found in The Word? Something beneficial to them that it's worth the risk of their undoing? They're already stronger than humans, than angels. Also, why did the angels die with black goo?

I loved Kevin. Oh man, the Mouths have our little word keeper, who reminds me of a geflin so hard.

edited cuz I can't spell.


Morgana - May 04, 2012 5:44:02 pm PDT #25004 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Oh man, the Mouths have our little word keeper

Are we out of archangels? Since they're supposed to show up whenever the prophets are endangered?


Amy - May 04, 2012 5:47:16 pm PDT #25005 of 30002
Because books.

Aren't there only Gabriel, Michael, Raphael, and ... maybe one more? Two of them are dead and one is in Lucifer's cage.

Castiel has gone through so many personalities, and here's yet another one.

Really? He seemed like Castiel to me, just Castiel without his former mission, and with no conflict left. He's enjoying the beauty and mystery of God's creations, and he seems content with that. Like I said, it reminded me of orgy-having Cas, just without the drugs and the cynicism. Or at least it reminded me of the spiel he was feeding the orgy participants.


Juliebird - May 04, 2012 5:48:00 pm PDT #25006 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

They called him a prophet at one point, which is confusing, because Chuck was never taken to the desert, he never discovered any writings of Metatron. Maybe there are different kinds of prophets? Or the word was misused?


Amy - May 04, 2012 5:51:07 pm PDT #25007 of 30002
Because books.

Kevin was the prophet, not Castiel.


Juliebird - May 04, 2012 5:55:19 pm PDT #25008 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

it reminded me of orgy-having Cas, just without the drugs and the cynicism

I saw that, too. But it was weird without the drugs and cynicism. And also, because of that lack, it was a new personality. That lack is a huge difference. Like I said, I'll have to rewatch to really wrap my tiny brain around. And see how it tracks. Because there also seemed to be a disconnect with reality. Deliberate, or an actual psychic break. At some times it seemed to be one or the other.

And I also guess that he had been comatose this whole time? Which also caused a disconnect for me. Because his behaviour spoke of having had time to come to grips with dispelling the Lucifer visions, and his choice to no longer fight.

And as for the comparisons to his 2014 persona, and the differences, he came about the sense of humor and personality via different routes. There might be some end result similarities, and I like that it tracks that his showing more human traits track, especially with the differences, but I still call them two wholly different beasts.

Kevin was the prophet, not Castiel.

Who was that directed at, Amy? Because I don't think either Morgana or I meant or referenced Castiel in terms of the prophet.


Amy - May 04, 2012 6:01:23 pm PDT #25009 of 30002
Because books.

I was responding to this, Julie:

They called him a prophet at one point, which is confusing, because Chuck was never taken to the desert

Which you said right after we were talking about Castiel, so I thought that was who you meant. I guess also because you had been talking about being confused about Cas's character. Sorry.

And I also guess that he had been comatose this whole time? Which also caused a disconnect for me. Because his behaviour spoke of having had time to come to grips with dispelling the Lucifer visions, and his choice to no longer fight.

He was comatose, but who knows? He's an angel, so maybe it was different for him?

I don't know, it didn't bother me. It came off more as maybe Cas retreating into his head (while comatose) for whatever reason.


Juliebird - May 04, 2012 6:12:58 pm PDT #25010 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

He was comatose, but who knows? He's an angel, so maybe it was different for him?

Okay, I can get behind that, me likes. Even though to humans he was in a vegetative state, he was actually dealing with Harvey and processing stuff, and came out the other side . . . different, and with a firm conviction about his place and purpose.

It actually makes a sort of sense. He can't apologize forever, he can't make amends more than he has. He's already messed up a lot of stuff (with good intentions, hello path to Hell). So his new goal is to stop fighting, appreciate. Stop meddling. (a part of me can't stop railing against this).

Hmm, maybe, in his learning from his "mistakes", he steps far away from free will, becomes a nonplayer, and immerses himself in mindless instincts like how bees pollinate in accordance with a biological imperative, with no motive or endgame except to simply be[e].