Please...Wesley...why can't I stay?

Fred ,'A Hole in the World'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Typo Boy - Apr 02, 2012 11:52:50 am PDT #24799 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Why I still think something is up with Bobby.

No, it is not necessarily surprising that he can't make himself visible, but most ghosts to date have seemed to be able to make stuff move, or flicker the lights or do something when they want. He was in the same room with Dean and the flask,so when Dean asked for a sign I'd expect him to be able to something, especially since Bobby handed Dean the sword, has drawn attention to key documents and moved or drained a beer.

As to his background not giving him any special advantages: I'll bet he at least knows he is dead. We've seen ghosts that don't. Similarly, even if he started out not knowing how to do anything, he knows what ghosts can and can't do. That means he can put his efforts to doing stuff he knows is possible and not into things ghosts just do not do. And, everything else aside, I have trouble believing Bobby would be at the slow end of this particular type of learning curve.


§ ita § - Apr 02, 2012 12:04:00 pm PDT #24800 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, if I felt I knew what the learning curve was, I'd be better able to judge how Bobby's doing with regards to that. I mean, assuming there is a learning curve.


Typo Boy - Apr 02, 2012 12:05:48 pm PDT #24801 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Unless all ghost powers include full knowledge of how to use them, I'd assume there is a learning curve.


§ ita § - Apr 02, 2012 12:28:07 pm PDT #24802 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It could go either way. I don't feel that all transforming monsters have a learning curve (werewolves, vampires), and I don't know if ghosts fall into that category or not.

Remains to be seen, as far as I'm concerned. I don't feel it's been established. Dean wasn't dead when we saw him struggling.


JenP - Apr 02, 2012 3:57:22 pm PDT #24803 of 30002

Someone help, please? I have a scene in my brain, and I can't remember which episode it is. Sam and Dean are on the stairs of a college (maybe?), and Sam, at least, is being affected by something, because he's all super-emotive and huggy - and he's hugging some student and telling him to let it out, or get in touch with his feelings or somesuch. And I feel like Dean stuffs his face full of cookies at some point, and I think it's the same scene, but I can't remember.

Which episode is it? I can usually get there, but not this time.


Amy - Apr 02, 2012 4:01:43 pm PDT #24804 of 30002
Because books.

It's Tall Tales, when they're describing what's going on to Bobby, so you see each of them through each other's eyes.


JenP - Apr 02, 2012 4:39:41 pm PDT #24805 of 30002

Oh, god, thank you. It was driving me insane... er than usual.


Amy - Apr 02, 2012 4:45:36 pm PDT #24806 of 30002
Because books.

I'm a little freaked by how easily it came to me. Yay obsessive fen! (Or ... ?)


§ ita § - Apr 02, 2012 5:21:57 pm PDT #24807 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"You're too precious for this world!"

And it's the guy from Eureka. Who I hung out with in Colin's back yard. Good times, good times.

So I was scanning some tumblrs I haven't read recently, and one was by a D/C shipper who left pretty much when Misha did, because they ruined Cas and dicked Misha over. I actually left her an anon note in her ask box saying that we don't have enough information to blame Sera like she does, and she was pretty defensive about her position.

Boy, did she not like 7x17. I...I hadn't thought that Cas fans wouldn't like it. But some of them are sour on the show in general, and there's little it can do to please them.

I know it took narrative liberties with getting Sam out of a mental hospital, and putting Cas into same, down to the very room. Very tidy, that. But there are people mad at Dean for abandoning Cas, which...Dean showed much love for the angel that week! I thought their relationship came off very well, unless you actually are expecting dick to get sucked. Which, you know...

I thought I could put myself in the headspace of most of the fans and interrogate the show from their perspectives, but I come up woefully short most of the time.


tiggy - Apr 02, 2012 6:13:56 pm PDT #24808 of 30002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

And it's the guy from Eureka.

also the Mouthbreather from Wonderfalls!

"you brave little soldier. i acknowledge your pain. too precious for this world!"