I'm rewatching and Dean's muttered "turn it off, turnitoff" had me laughing again. And so not what sober Dean would do.

I'm trying to think that maybe Bobby can only manifest and influence when Dean is desperate for something. But Dean was desperate for Bobby to give a sign and nothing. And I can't remember what emotional state Dean was in when his beer disappeared, or what his beer disappearing would mean other than Bobby saying "stop drinking so much" (except Sam was drinking too, at that point).

I do recall Dean invited the conversation after Sam revealed he'd tried to Ouiji Bobby. In the motel room with Garth, he said to Sam, "we're going to talk about this" or something to that effect. And at the end, Sam said, "Okay, let's talk."

Also Dean wasn't drunk enough to see the Shojo, and Sam was unconscious and relied on Dean to explain the sword's movement. Then he tried to explain it as the Shojo mishandling it. Nice denial, boys.

I hate that we have to wait three weeks for them to be able to see Bobby. Hmph.

Guys, I skipped a little, but didn't Cas' wife Daphne say she got a message from God that she was supposed to find and help Cas?

And it's been a little while, but it's never been established, truly, truly established, that God is dead.

I don't really have a theory about where the story is going, but I don't think God is dead or gone or whatever.

Of course, it could be a red herring, because I suppose any number of supernatural baddies could tell a devout person they were God, and make them believe it, but I don't think so.

And as for Bobby -- perhaps he is a traditional ghost, or maybe so much of his psychic imprint is on the flask that he's connected to it, despite the cremation. I mean, Bobby didn't leave the hotel room until Dean came back for the flask. And from the preview, we know he travels with the boys. And Dean takes that flask everywhere.

So why didn't he communicate with Sam? Perhaps he's under a geas, or perhaps...a mission? From God? Or he WAS in purgatory for a while...or, oooh, Crowley is controlling him? That would be EVIL.

I don't know. I can't wait to see.

(I do know that when we saw Bobby, I shouted "IDGITS!" at the same time Dan screamed "BALLS!" And we both were right!)

it's never been established, truly, truly established, that God is dead.

It's never been vaguely established either. It's only been said that he doesn't care. Who said he was dead? Last thing I remember out there, he was maybe Chuck.

It's possible that Bobby didn't communicate with Sam because Dean wasn't there, and because Dean wasn't there, the flask wasn't there, so Bobby wasn't there. So far, I don't think he's been anywhere the flask isn't.

What is still mysterious to me (and I think intended by the writers to be) is that Bobby could not give Dean s sign when they were in the same room along with the flask. Move something, flash the lights. And the whole "full Patrick Swayze" remark underlined that we would expect Bobby to be able to do that, that there is something here that needs to be explained.

It's possible that Bobby just hasn't figured out how to do everything ghostly yet. Knowing it can be done isn't the same as knowing how to go about doing it firsthand.

As of 7.01, Death seemed pretty certain that God is still alive, and he'd be the authority on the subject.

It's possible that Bobby just hasn't figured out how to do everything ghostly yet. Knowing it can be done isn't the same as knowing how to go about doing it firsthand

True, but I'll be disappointed if that is all it is, because it sure looks to me like they are setting us up for more than that.

I don't know why Dean would expect that Bobby would know how to be a more effective ghost than anyone else. I'm not sure what's behind that, other than "My dead adoptive dad can beat up your dead dad."

I'm discussing ghosts with no bodies left behind, and someone is citing Bloody Mary and Route 666 as examples, and to me they don't count. For me, Bloody Mary is a thing, like Woman in White, an urban legend monster, not a dead person, per se--it's something more complicated than just dying, and...and maybe I just don't want to think about the racist ghost truck properly.

What do you guys think?

I thought Bloody Mary was supposed to be a specific woman's ghost that was following the cultural tradition, and that there were others like her?

I just did the research, and there's only one Bloody Mary. Or, well, was one. Dean's killed killed her now. Just the Mary Worthington. So the guy was right. When I look at it with his glasses on, we've seen even more than I'd thought.

I mean, technically, we can say that about all of the Women in White too, right? Because that's definitely a recurring thing, and salting and burning isn't the answer.