Book: Yes, I'd forgotten you're moonlighting as a criminal mastermind now. Got your next heist planned? Simon: No. But I'm thinking about growing a big black mustache. I'm a traditionalist.

'War Stories'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 26, 2012 3:09:02 pm PDT #24721 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'm just not seeing the evidence of monsters in anguish that you see as so obvious. We've had tormented monsters called out as exceptions to heighten a handful of stories, but most often it's monsters both Dean and Sam would have no hesitation putting an end to, Mr. Black and White, and Mr. 1 Million Shades of Grey themselves.

I'm not necessarily certain the dead monsters are all in a state of torment (though it wouldn't surprise me, what with apparently floating forever in a dark void with Mother-of-All and the Leviathans for company). But I would think that being linked to them and their inhuman urges and such would be destabilizing for a non-monster consciousness such as Cas' (or anybody else's).


Amy - Mar 26, 2012 3:16:42 pm PDT #24722 of 30002
Because books.

For those who already know some Glee casting spoilers, see this item and its reference to Sam and Dean. Dude, Wincest frigging precedes us everywhere.


§ ita § - Mar 26, 2012 4:20:13 pm PDT #24723 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I would think that being linked to them and their inhuman urges and such would be destabilizing for a non-monster consciousness such as Cas' (or anybody else's).

And he was destabilised. But the souls were very different, and the situation was very different, and the results were very different so...I don't get what the problem was. I don't get what it had to do with Sam.

As for Eve's plan--she creates monsters and the souls come to her. Whether or not these souls are created by changing a human soul into a monster soul (not pasted as a fun time, but also not as bad as Luci hatebanging), or by evacuating the body of a human soul and turning it into a monster which grows a freaky monster soul--we don't know, and I doubt Sera is thinking about that.

What I saw happen to Cas was that an angel had a sudden influx of a huge number of powerful, rowdy souls who are bent on evil. He thinks he can do good with the power up gets from all of this, but he doesn't bargain on the sheer taint of the monsterness of the power to make his seemingly kind ideas come out cold, hard, and deadly.

But still able to wander around, because they're not insane. Sam is one soul, a distillation of pure torture in a cage where humans weren't meant to go, the person Luci hates....well, he's on his top 5, anyway. So the vampire soul is able to tear around Purgatory and cause whatever chaos he wanted to, seemingly--no tales of them being tied down and tortured like hell, although I wouldn't want to build a summer home there...

Versus the best torture job *ever*, No competition, no matter how many energy cells Cas swallowed. They're just nothing compared to Lucifer's finest work.


Stephanie - Mar 26, 2012 6:35:55 pm PDT #24724 of 30002
Trust my rage

I know this is OT, but Matt Bomer is the perfect older brother for that actor. I will watch that episode.


§ ita § - Mar 27, 2012 4:56:06 am PDT #24725 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sneak peek #1: [link]

Man, I can't wait for an explicit booze commentary, although I'm sure they're going to muck up my alcoholic Dean fanon something fierce.


§ ita § - Mar 27, 2012 5:40:43 am PDT #24726 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I seem to remember (but can't find a citation for) Sera saying she liked Jared bound. Does anyone have a link or a quote or anything better?

In return, I offer some, ah, circumstantial evidence: [link]


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 27, 2012 5:57:36 am PDT #24727 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I remember back when I first started watching she was very vocal about liking to get Jared out of his shirt...


§ ita § - Mar 27, 2012 6:04:24 am PDT #24728 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He hasn't been out of it that much, considering. I mean, we're in S7, and they've been few and far between. Homeslice sucks at her job, man. I want her fired, and replaced by someone competent.


tiggy - Mar 28, 2012 6:42:21 pm PDT #24729 of 30002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

unspoilery pic of Jensen as tweeted by the director of 7x22. [link]


§ ita § - Mar 28, 2012 7:59:23 pm PDT #24730 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's the outfit we've been discussing in Spoiler Lite! You're Lite spoiled now!