but only for 1 year.

Also...I want the spin-off to be about Mary in high school being a hunter with the same actress from ITB. She was very Buffy esque with her bad ass fighting self, her secrets from everyone close to her, the spunk she showed against her dad, and the absolute bubbly sweetness she had talking to Dean about John. And if we can't have a spin off about her then I will settle for adopting her.

I just loved her. I'm kind of sad the actress was cast as Mary -- not because she wasn't the perfect young Mary -- she was. Just because I would have loved to have her around more on the show. She was perfection in that role. I will share custody of her, if you like.

Buffistas, it's become entirely all too clear to me that we need to engage Misha Collins in a group marriage. I don't need to be first or last, but I need to be in on it.

Oh, go on then. You've convinced me.

And, yes, I agree that the girl who played Mary was terrific. And she was also, I have to say, really quite reminiscent of Alona Tal.

...on the one hand, I kind of want Jo and/or Ellen back on the show. But on the other hand, I still want them to stay safely far away from the Winchesters.

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So I guess spinoff it is, then.

I wonder what the chances are of Samantha Ferris being asked back to the show for guest shots now that the "We need more hot younger women in short skirts!" approach has been revealed as ineffective?

(I also wonder if the network bigwigs have realized that while pretzel-bending plots to accomodate the inclusion of said hot younger women in shorts skirts didn't help their ratings, more dramatic conflict between the leads and the addition of a hot guy in a long trenchcoat did?)

Ferris has said there's been some interest in having her back, but they won't commit to dates far enough out for her to do other work as well. I think it's the same thing with JDM, they can't just call him up when they get a good story idea and have him bop in to film it, and evidently they can't break a story far enough in advance to get him booked. If they can afford him now. He's said publicly he'd like to come back, that there's some John stuff he'd like to see resolved. But he could just be playing nice while his reps keep asking for more money than Kripke and the network have.

Honestly, while I'd love to see him make an appearance and actually have some interaction, I think both the brothers have moved beyond Dad's authority at this point. Dean won't snap to attention any more--he's seen and done and been through too much, he's too old to play the dutiful son. And Sam too. At this juncture, I don't really see the point of having John make an appearance, other than the eye candy factor.

About your wondering, Matt. I don't know. But I'd love to have an ear in one of the meetings where that comes up.

I agree that I feel the story really has moved on from the point where John would make much of an impact. Unless perhaps in flashbacks? But still - nsm.

Ellen and/or Jo, though, would be great.

(I'm kind of vaguely hoping that we'll get a Lucifer like Mike Carey's Lucifer next season, I think. Not so much with the Big Evil, and more with the free will and sunsets.)

I'm kind of vaguely hoping that we'll get a Lucifer like Mike Carey's Lucifer next season, I think. Not so much with the Big Evil, and more with the free will and sunsets.

Yes. This. It would also be interesting if the defeat of Lucifer isn't a physical besting (something that probably would be possible only if you were, say, God), so much as a reconciliation. After all, isn't Lucifer the angels' brother? And Dean mending fences with Sam is bound to be a bit part of next season, so... Anyhow, it's just a theory I've started noodling around with and still haven't poked at too much. I'm still trying to connect a few thoughts, such as how we know, thanks to Azazel and Meg, that demons do value family connections in some manner. Plus you've got the angels, some of whom are trying to follow what they think are the orders of an absent and incommunicado father. Etc.

Getting JDM in for a flashback scene would be wonderful. It may also be a good excuse to get Colin Ford back for a bit, since I think JA and JP have changed enough physically since S1 to make it hard to sell them as pre-series Sam and Dean.

Someday someone will market a show with "JDM LIVES!"

I'd watch it.

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What? IJS

I think next season will be all about redemption for both boys. Both had a hand in unleashing Lucifer, both will have to work together to see this resolved.

I also have a working theory: Zachariah is playing God, and is completely behind the Winchester Gospels. There is nothing divine about Chuck's inspiration to write them. It's all Zachariah manipulating Chuck, the Winchesters, the angels, and perhaps even the archangels.

Just an idea. But Kripke is still a genius and is likely to shatter that notion rather quickly.