Mal: He calls back, you keep them occupied. Wash: What do I do, shadow puppets?

'The Message'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Mar 10, 2012 6:32:26 am PST #24448 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But I do want to know if Jimmy has been hosting Cas this whole time, or if he's gone to his reward one of the times Cas died, or inbetween, or what. So he totally doesn't have to come back as Cas, but maybe Jimmy has been back this whole time--maybe when Cas got reintegrated after being blown up by Raphael, he got put back in Pontiac--think the Winchesters ever checked? Who the fuck knows?

If they hadn't bothered to give us one episode, I'd wonder less. But they did get me interested, so I think it's reasonable to tie up the loose ends.


Amy - Mar 10, 2012 6:36:46 am PST #24449 of 30002
Because books.

I think in my head, Jimmy was gone once Castiel took him over again (and left Claire's vessel). I'm not sure where I got that idea, but I haven't really wondered about Jimmy since. That said, I won't mind if they tie up the story for the reason you stated -- they opened that door in the first place by giving us an episode about him.


§ ita § - Mar 10, 2012 6:49:37 am PST #24450 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've read a lot of D/C haters (seriously--why bother expend the energy...I don't get S/G, but it doesn't really take up brainspace) say "Consent issues! Vessel rape! You guys condone non-con!" when *so* many shippers have sent Jimmy on to the Elysian Fields long ago. It's the most trivial (and, seriously, reasonable--it's not twisting canon so you don't have to worry) thing in the world. I just really can't imagine he's still in there--I just want to hear them say *something*. Anything. I wanna know.

And even if the end to Adam's story is sad, he deserves "Fin."

I love this collection of character notes for Dean: [link] I hadn't noticed. What a cutie! I could stand to see that referred to more in fic, I think. Gently, though. Not harped on. Like, no PETA membership.


Amy - Mar 10, 2012 7:20:03 am PST #24451 of 30002
Because books.

I've read fic where wee!Dean falls in love with a kitten or a puppy, but he's very stoic about knowing John wouldn't allow it. ::SOB::


§ ita § - Mar 10, 2012 7:31:21 am PST #24452 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sam! You know we can't have a pet, with the way we live! Don't look at me like that! You know what Dad would...stop looking at me like that!


Amy - Mar 10, 2012 7:55:35 am PST #24453 of 30002
Because books.

Yup, just like that.


Amy - Mar 10, 2012 3:10:09 pm PST #24454 of 30002
Because books.

I get a toaster! I turned a fellow YA author to SPN and she started watching it today. Two episodes in and she's tweeting, "I LOVE these brothers!"

I had to tell her they're mine, of course, but otherwise YAY!


Juliebird - Mar 11, 2012 1:17:38 pm PDT #24455 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I just had a horrible D/C plot bunny: AU of Angels with Dirty Faces, with Dean as Rocky, Cas as Jerry, and Sam de-aged to play one of the Bowry Boys who idolizes Dean. Crowley as the crooked lawyer Frazier.

Horrible because Dean dies.

Horrible because Sam's belief in Dean gets broken.


Juliebird - Mar 11, 2012 6:16:17 pm PDT #24456 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

So I just had to go and rewatch Afterschool Special, and I'm so glad I'm not the only one turned off by young Dean.

But what really got me was Dirk's story. I don't know, but I found myself overwhelmingly saddened by Dirk's circumstances. It's one thing to be a sympthatetic victim. But to be a dude putting on a front to deal with your issues, known for your jerkitude, outed for your lameness, and therefore all of that equalling you having no one to turn to for help or sympathy. I don't think I'm expressing it right. Like, in the scheme of things where we are all people with stories and issues, where the victims and underdogs get the sympathy (where the matter of them being individuals that are really worthwhile human beings is debateable) that it's nigh impossible to have the support system to help you when your own daily support system (of being a bully, putting on a front of being tough) is undermined.

Which makes me think of Dean, and maybe that's where the writer's were going with in regards to his embarrassing shouts of "hero!" at the end. He's got this front, this daily support system that gets him through the day. And it's undermined. And he just looks like a jerk. And if he hadn't had that front, maybe he'd have been sympathetic to others, and recieved sympathy and support. But he just looked like a jerk and was abandoned to his own devices. And you've gotta keep that front at that point. Especially when you're not going to get allies. Better to pretend you don't need them.


Amy - Mar 12, 2012 4:53:48 am PDT #24457 of 30002
Because books.

Jared continues to be adorable.