Love isn't brains, children, it's blood, blood screaming inside you to work its will.

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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Consuela - May 16, 2009 7:02:06 am PDT #2429 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Beverly - May 16, 2009 8:13:18 am PDT #2430 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

My third current fav part is the before mentioned "I'm sorry" delivered by JA. That boy has created magic with the character of Sam. What range. ::sigh::

You mean JP, yes?


Typo Boy - May 16, 2009 8:14:11 am PDT #2431 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

It may not be enforced as such. But in a magical universe violating a sworn oath to a powerful supernatural being probably has bad consequences. Dean being an oathbreaker would probably make him more vulnerable to a whole bunch of stuff.


-t - May 16, 2009 8:17:47 am PDT #2432 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Lucifer's fall in the first place implies free will on the part of the angels, even if most of them don't actively exercise it.

It seems like that's the case, but they said that angels don't have free will when they were explaining why Anna was wrong and bad, didn't they? Which confused me at the time and still confuses me, so I don't think I can parse the subtleties. But if the stated policy of 'angels have no free will' has changed in recent times, that would be interesting, certainly. Or if it was never the case and just something they all believed for some reason, I suppose.


Anne W. - May 16, 2009 8:23:29 am PDT #2433 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Or if it was never the case and just something they all believed for some reason, I suppose.

I could see the "do as you are told, OR ELSE" mentality developing amongst the higher-ups as a way of controlling what Zacharaiah referred to as the rank and file. Anna, who was apparently fairly high-ranking, needed to be made an example of.

Speaking of Anna, any guesses/speculation as to whether she is dead or off being "re-educated" somewhere?


Marcia - May 16, 2009 10:47:43 am PDT #2434 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

any guesses/speculation as to whether she is dead or off being "re-educated" somewhere?

Originally, they'd said punishment for her fall from grace is death, but who knows what's in store for her. Although, it would be very interesting if Anna was actually a player in a bigger, more overarching plan -- God's plan.


Beverly - May 16, 2009 11:10:57 am PDT #2435 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

So Ruby was Lucifer's ringer and Anna is God's? Interesting.


Juliebird - May 16, 2009 11:18:21 am PDT #2436 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

What I'm wondering is did Lilith know back when she loosed her hounds on Dean and tried to kill Sam that she knew she had to die to break the final seal, and that Sam would be instrumental in that? If, at that point, she didn't, what stopped her from killing Sam? Lucifer?


Juliebird - May 16, 2009 11:19:46 am PDT #2437 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

And also, did she know even at the end, that her death would break the final seal? I know Ruby said she had all the other demons fooled as to her true loyalty, but was Lilith involved in that circle of information?


Theresa - May 16, 2009 11:24:21 am PDT #2438 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

You mean JP, yes?

Yes...I'll be over in the corner with God.

Angels aren't supposed to have freewill...or maybe I have imagined that as a oft used reason for their jealousy of man.

However, our Angels of this universe do have free will. Lucifer did something to make God mad enough to lock him up. So like Matt said, that makes free will precedent. Then Anna chose to fall. Made the decision and carried it through so these angels totally have free will.

If Prophecy is being carried out there is no reason for God to be in the building. Things are or were on autopilot. His vacation may have been on his calendar all along. Free willing Zach may have taken advantage of that to xerox pictures of his butt, but there is going to Heaven to pay when the Boss gets back.