There were some episodes I really liked in Season 3, but I'm scratching my head at the idea it was a marked improvement over Season 2 (which I still think was their best, despite really enjoying both Castiel and Bobby's increased role in later seasons.)
And Kaylee, what the hell's goin' on in the engine room? Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?
Mal ,'The Train Job'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 22, 2012 5:57:17 am PST #24264 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
§ ita § - Feb 22, 2012 6:04:14 am PST #24265 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think that's my biggest surprise. I can see liking the direction of four and five more than 1-3, because it is quite different, but I can't see making it that far. However, the number of people that think three is one of the strongest seasons, rather than the weakest (and, yes, I still think so in light of 6) startles me.
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 22, 2012 6:15:30 am PST #24266 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
It would be trolling to ask people who've declared that opinion if it was the hastily rewritten season outline, the dumbing-down of the leads to make the new antagonist characters seem more competent, or the strong undercurrent of misogyny that made it extra special for them, wouldn't it?
§ ita § - Feb 22, 2012 7:02:12 am PST #24267 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Hey, now. If you don't like Bela, you are misogynistic.
Good god, how I hate that argument. No, she is not a female Crowley/Gabe, and no, I'm not asked to feel about Crowley the way I was asked to feel about her, nor her relationship to the boys. Fuck off.
And, honestly, if you heard me express my wishes for Crowley's demise/comeuppance directed at Bela, you'd call me misogynistic anyway. So there's no winning.
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 22, 2012 7:29:36 am PST #24268 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Hey, now. If you don't like Bela, you are misogynistic.
Bwah ha ha! I wonder if Mary, Ellen, Jo, Sherrif Mills, Dr. Visnyak, and the occult expert from the most recent episode aren't women? (Well, I guess technically Visnyak actually wasn't, but rather a genderless thing wearing a woman suit.) You'd think my rampant misogyny would make me dislike all the women on the show, yet weirdly the ones who are well-written don't seem to trigger it.
§ ita § - Feb 22, 2012 7:48:51 am PST #24269 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Look, women are all the same, and if you dislike one, you hate all of them, real and fictional. Stop fighting it.
Man, I hate what some people spout in the name of social justice. The term is pretty much irretrievably tarnished for me. It's not like the word feminism, which I think is important to reclaim and properly define. Social justice started off, pretty much, being slapped on to people overreacting to responses to fiction, whereas there could be a pretty sensible critique, there's just too much noise in with the signal now.
JenP - Feb 22, 2012 9:06:10 am PST #24270 of 30002
I was just coming in to see if there were any sneak peeks linked. I did see the trailer on FB. March 16 is way too far away and also my sister's 50th b-day party. Inconvenient!! On the other hand, once all the guests leave and the family goes to bed, I can watch it DVRd on their giganto-screen. Maybe I win in the end anyway. Nice.
I watched the first couple of SPNs, and while I liked it, it never made it into my regular play list. I actually don't remember when I picked it up again, but I'm guessing during S2, because I bought S1 so I could be up to speed. Because, much like with Fringe, when I picked it up again I was hooked but good.
tiggy - Feb 22, 2012 11:17:54 am PST #24271 of 30002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
I didn't love show on first viewing of season one, but then i went back and did a re-watch and found that i'd somehow missed a LOT of episodes. so...yeah. season two is still my favorite.
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 22, 2012 12:38:23 pm PST #24272 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Season 2 was the one that pulled me in, after "Wendigo" and "Dead in the Water" completely failed to engage my interest. Looking back Season 1 was pretty hit-or-miss, though if I'd seen the pilot first and stuck around for "Phantom Traveler" and "Skin" after the two duds I'd likely have been a fan from the start.
§ ita § - Feb 22, 2012 12:58:12 pm PST #24273 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Fucking hell, Skin. My loins do dirty things just thinking about Shifter!Dean looking over his shoulder to the music and the noise of the SWAT team.
Maybe not everyone has my buttons.