I was just searching for something on my TV, and noticed that Supernatural is scheduled for Thursday ("Slice Girls") and Friday ("Season 7, Time for a Wedding") this week.
Look, you got a little stabbed the other day. That's bound to make anyone a mite ornery.
Mal ,'Ariel'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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Morgana - Feb 21, 2012 6:20:08 pm PST #24258 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
§ ita § - Feb 21, 2012 7:22:39 pm PST #24259 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It's so weird-I keep seeing the discussion on IO9 of "Well, I finally started watching Supernatural, but it kinda sucks. When does it stop sucking?" "Well, the first two seasons are a bit rough, but it picks up around season three and seasons four and five are brilliant."
Which, you know, is good. Because my reflexive response is usually "Well, if you've made it 1/3 through the first season and you don't like the characters enough to be hooked, maybe it's not your show."
I don't understand these other people. Objectively and academically, I get that there was a shift in S4, and I get that it was a shift that turned people off. I also get that some people (often fangirls and sometimes shippers) love Castiel like nothing that came before. But if you didn't like them in S1 enough to be sucked in, if you really disliked the MOTW more than you like the Winchesters, I don't understand how you like the show.
Confusing.
§ ita § - Feb 22, 2012 4:51:19 am PST #24260 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Show doesn't return until the 16th, now.
Here's the trailer that ran after last week's ep: [link] . I almost feel like Mejiaing it, because there's so little, and it seems so disparate. Here's what I can tell, in no particular order:
- A kid listens to an old style record player
- The same kid makes a stabbing motion
- Ballerina
- Sam is wheeled through a poorly lit corridor in a hospital gurney and clothes
- Someone with Jimmy Novak's face wheels to face the camera
20 seconds. A month. Motherfuckers.
Amy - Feb 22, 2012 5:00:13 am PST #24261 of 30002
Because books.
Wait, what? I thought it was coming back on March 7?
Is that the same trailer? I don't remember half of that! But I was still reeling from Lucifer's cackle when the credits rolled, so.
But if you didn't like them in S1 enough to be sucked in, if you really disliked the MOTW more than you like the Winchesters, I don't understand how you like the show.
Yeah, I give any show a few episodes, maybe five if I'm feeling generous or there's a lot of pretty, and if it doesn't hook me, I'm out. Why anyone keeps watching, waiting for a show to be something else, or please them in some way that the show doesn't seem inclined to deliver, is beyond me.
§ ita § - Feb 22, 2012 5:11:58 am PST #24262 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I thought it was coming back on March 7?
It was the 9th. But now the 16th.
I just rewatched the trailer at the end of the ep, and it's all the same stuff, yeah.
Why anyone keeps watching, waiting for a show to be something else
And half a season is a lot! I'd have bugged out long by then. And I watch a lot of television.
But, mostly, I think there's enough about the beginning of the show that's still so very true about even now, that I can't see hating the first and liking the last (although I can see growing apart from it).
Amy - Feb 22, 2012 5:14:13 am PST #24263 of 30002
Because books.
For me, it's still two orphaned boys who have very little but each other, fighting to do good in a world that has treated them really badly.
I'm not exactly rational when it comes to Winchesters, though, so my objectivity is sort of questionable.
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 22, 2012 5:57:17 am PST #24264 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
There were some episodes I really liked in Season 3, but I'm scratching my head at the idea it was a marked improvement over Season 2 (which I still think was their best, despite really enjoying both Castiel and Bobby's increased role in later seasons.)
§ ita § - Feb 22, 2012 6:04:14 am PST #24265 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think that's my biggest surprise. I can see liking the direction of four and five more than 1-3, because it is quite different, but I can't see making it that far. However, the number of people that think three is one of the strongest seasons, rather than the weakest (and, yes, I still think so in light of 6) startles me.
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 22, 2012 6:15:30 am PST #24266 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
It would be trolling to ask people who've declared that opinion if it was the hastily rewritten season outline, the dumbing-down of the leads to make the new antagonist characters seem more competent, or the strong undercurrent of misogyny that made it extra special for them, wouldn't it?
§ ita § - Feb 22, 2012 7:02:12 am PST #24267 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Hey, now. If you don't like Bela, you are misogynistic.
Good god, how I hate that argument. No, she is not a female Crowley/Gabe, and no, I'm not asked to feel about Crowley the way I was asked to feel about her, nor her relationship to the boys. Fuck off.
And, honestly, if you heard me express my wishes for Crowley's demise/comeuppance directed at Bela, you'd call me misogynistic anyway. So there's no winning.