I thought they might be drawing a distinction between torture and Torture. For one, Sam was helping. Two, he was beaten up and required stitches, but Dean wasn't carving him up the way I assumed he was going to do with Alistair. Splitting hairs, possibly, but I'm going with what they did to Jeffrey was a really brutal beating, and not torture of the "strap them to the table and remove organs" sort.

Well, he was tied to the chair the way just about all of the torture victims we've seen other than Alistair have been, so it evoked that for me--my brain went straight to 2014, in fact.

I'm not sure how many of the injuries were as a result of the fighting they'd have done to get him there, but when he reeled off the list from the hospital, my gut sank that the boys had done even half of that. And Dean did seem to be leading.

In the end, I can't draw enough of a distinction between "really brutal beating" to extract information and torture not to think the lines between torturer!Dean and not torturer!Dean just got a lot fuzzier.

I'd love to read someone else's meta on it, but I really don't have the energy to wade through the haterade that generally requires.

Just saw my first animated GIF of the tongue. That's the body mod that disturbs me the most. Well, most body mods don't disturb me. But split tongue and split penis (I hope someone's writing that fic right now) creep me the fuck out.

Lee offered to torment my inbox with it, but I'm not sure why she suddenly would want snuff pig porn in hers.

A girl's got to have some hobbies, doesn't she?

I can't believe I'm seeing comments about Lucifer's "pudge". They are primarily complimentary comments, but still.

Mark was pretty gaunt back when he was first playing Nick, so maybe it's just a comparative thing?

The timestamp confused me until I remembered the full year gap that occurred between Seasons 5 and 6. So they were in the Season 4 fight against the opening of the seals, not the Season 3 hunt for Lilith to get Dean's contract nullified.

One thing I do not get is why Jeffrey was helpful to them four years ago if he was already BFF with the demon that was possessing him. What motivation would he have had to sign off on the torture if he wanted the demon to stick around?

I have to watch again -- it did get a little extra twisty there at the end.

Lucifer's "pudge".

I first read that as Lucifer's "bulge" which I gave another interpretation.

motivation would he have had to sign off on the torture if he wanted the demon to stick around?

The Demon and he both agreed on saying yes so he would survive. Otherwise the torture would have happened anyway. And while I doubt Dean and Sam would have offed him after for saying no, the Demon and maybe Jeffrey as well might have taken it for granted that they would.

One thing I do not get is why Jeffrey was helpful to them four years ago if he was already BFF with the demon that was possessing him

What I was questioning was the scene in the present where the demon, in the witch's son's body, got caught by the Devil's Trap (or whichever) sigil on the ceiling. Geoffrey assumed that he and the demon were best buds, and he was working really hard to bring the demon back so that he could house him again. Why would he think he'd need the Devil's Trap?

I thought Sam or the wiccan's mother had taken the time to do that before jumping the demon.

Yeah, I totally thought it was the witch there.