Oh! I know this one! 'Slaying entails certain sacrifices, blah blah blahbity blah, I'm so stuffy, gimme a scone.'

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§ ita § - Feb 13, 2012 7:17:39 am PST #24144 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wish we knew more about Sam's entertainment. Kripke seemed pretty determined to leave his music as an unanswered question--just "not cool" was supposed to be sufficient.

But we know what kind of books and movies and TV that Dean watches--he has familiarity with Vonnegut, gets choked up by telenovelas, and loves Shark Week and can quote about any movie ever. Sam, whither art thou?

eta: Kristen about taking down the poll: "Still investigating but activity was leading to major sitewide issues. Sorry"

Heh. Fandom battles are their own DDOS. Why not declare all couples (other than Klaine) winners?


Amy - Feb 13, 2012 7:30:58 am PST #24145 of 30002
Because books.

So what happened with the poll? I'm out of the loopy.

Sam is always doing homework, I think. If there's a case, he's reading up on it, or he's looking for a new one. I think Sam could probably use some lessons in how to relax, actually.


§ ita § - Feb 13, 2012 7:42:04 am PST #24146 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's all I know about the poll. I haven't been reading up on it anywhere else. Don't want to be exposed to the sturm und drang.

I have no doubt Sam finished every English Lit assigned book way ahead of the due date, but we still don't have any evidence of him reading for pleasure, unlike Dean.


SuziQ - Feb 13, 2012 7:45:09 am PST #24147 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

We do know that Sam appreciates porn - he was watching Casa Erotica but did the quick channel change/remote toss when Dean walked in.


§ ita § - Feb 13, 2012 7:52:23 am PST #24148 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, he doesn't appreciate it enough to admit to it, the big wuss.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 13, 2012 9:55:17 am PST #24149 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Sam was also very familiar with Lovecraft's fiction, though that may have been research rather than reading for enjoyment. (I'd imagine Machen and Poe are like going over case files for the Winchesters.)


sumi - Feb 13, 2012 10:25:02 am PST #24150 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

Hmm, it really makes no sense to me that Sam doesn't read for fun. . . surely he did when he was younger?


§ ita § - Feb 13, 2012 10:37:49 am PST #24151 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not saying he doesn't, but I can see that his life might be so taken up with reading for various sorts of achievement and duty that it's not really an issue. It would be a valid character note for me, and an interesting one, if Dean, the one who relaxes aggressively ends up chowing down on Tolkien and Vonnegut, while Sam is surfing the web for the latest lore from Guatemala. Just In Case, you know.

Yet, in Dean's head, he's the practical one, and Sam's the big old geek, but Dean's the one framing things in even literary references.


sumi - Feb 13, 2012 10:58:07 am PST #24152 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

I think in Dean's head it's that way because it may have been that way when they were kids.


§ ita § - Feb 13, 2012 12:09:12 pm PST #24153 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So you think he wasn't reading Vonnegut or its parallels when they were young? It seems simpler for me to assume Dean's just off about evaluating himself than that he had a marked change of reading habits.

However, Sam didn't know about it, but it does seem (perhaps unfairly to Sam) that there are a lot of things he didn't notice. I was looking at these animated gifs from early eps, and Sam is us--he finds out Dean is afraid of flying when we do, as opposed to it being a clearly established part of his family persona.

Is that because Sam had his head up his ass, or because Dean wasn't into sharing with him? Did John know? And if so, because he'd been able to see it, or because he was a master detective?

Looking at some more of that person's animated gifs, I'm led to wonder--did Misha tilt his head one time and tar Cas with the "owllike" brush, or was it a consistent tic?