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Jayne ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Theresa - Feb 08, 2012 5:36:12 pm PST #24071 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I need to watch In my Time of Dying because John giving Dean credit for everything that he did, kills me every damn time. John loved his boys and I love John (and his boys).

I was trying to think what to do and I guess this is a sign to continue my season one rewatch on Netflix. That pilot was pretty good. I'd watch that show. How was it ever explained that the Woman in White was able to attack Sam? Sam said he hadn't been unfaithful and she said, "you will be". Did that ever pan out to have any significance outside of the episode? Cause I don't remember Sam ever being unfaithful.

I love that D/C is doing so well in E!'s top couples. I hope someone has alerted Misha so he can rally his minions. D/C is definitely more worthy than Glee.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 08, 2012 5:38:51 pm PST #24072 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I didn't take it as any meaningful prophecy on the Woman in White's part, just that she was deep into her "All men are CHEATERZ!!!1!" mindset and was punishing the latest guy she met for what she assumed he'd do given the chance.


Theresa - Feb 08, 2012 5:43:03 pm PST #24073 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I think that's how I took it at the time. It was only watching it again that I wondered. But it makes more sense that she was in that mind frame.


§ ita § - Feb 08, 2012 5:45:34 pm PST #24074 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My impression was that it was some sort of mystical rule she was bound by--it was her schtick. I consider that on a level with Dean's eyes bleeding in Bloody Mary--hello?

In no real way would I want grieving John to be my father, but in the world of ita Sue, that's totally how it went down. I know it's incredibly unhealthy, but it's compelling on a character level because they made it complex (especially with the layering with young John (I still don't get how people (including JDM) think Kripke assassinated John in later seasons--I think they enriched him and made him more understandable)), and it's also twisted wish fulfillment on my part.


Theresa - Feb 08, 2012 6:51:02 pm PST #24075 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Oh man, that is one awesome episode. Brother love, father love, son love, it's all there. And it has one of my favorite lines: Why, John, you're a sentimentalist. If only your boys knew how much their daddy loved them.

JDM gave good John.

In no real way would I want grieving John to be my father, but in the world of ita Sue, that's totally how it went down.

Yes, in no way was he assassinated in my eyes. I know the complaints, I just don't care. He did better than I would have been able to and he kept his kids alive. I love him more than my luggage.


Juliebird - Feb 08, 2012 7:44:35 pm PST #24076 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

OMG, I have insomnia and Sam's season 1 hair is even worse than his season 7 hair. He's so adorkable!


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 09, 2012 5:26:45 am PST #24077 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Ah, the Cousin It days. I think the hairdressers on set must hate him - his hair looks so much better at conventions when he's presumably been taking care of it himself.


Laga - Feb 09, 2012 6:32:03 am PST #24078 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I can't cite the text but I fell like it's canon that the boys felt John was sometimes too hard on them.

In my interpretation they simply misunderstood how hard it is to keep your kids safe.


§ ita § - Feb 09, 2012 6:35:54 am PST #24079 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I fell like it's canon that the boys felt John was sometimes too hard on them

They've both said so, Sam to his face. In fact, I'd say "sometimes" is a strong underestimation of Sam's feelings.

However, John's reliance on emotional incest was wrong. Wrongity wrong. He took advantage of Dean's basic nature, and it cost the guy a childhood in more ways than just being motherless and on the run technically would. I don't think that was a misunderstanding, or them not getting how complicated or tough it was. You don't hand a kid his age a shotgun and berate him for not defending his little brother with lethal force at age nine. Nuh-huh. I'm never going to believe that was the *right* choice to make.


Laga - Feb 09, 2012 6:50:23 am PST #24080 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I don't think, if I suddenly found out the world was full of monsters, that I could have done a better job. Maybe the kids would have been better off being raised by a friend, but I'd be afraid the monsters would come and snatch them while my back was turned.