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'First Date'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Amy - Jan 15, 2012 5:19:02 am PST #23599 of 30002
Because books.

I think so, yeah.


§ ita § - Jan 15, 2012 5:46:22 am PST #23600 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know if she's watching the show with both eyes.

Not because I disagree with her liking or disliking the episode, but I'm surprised by the things she interprets. Well, I guess that's always a function of reading someone else's words, and she's required to go into detail and provide context every single episode, but still. I feel like a professional fan shouldn't let so many things like that get through.

Ah, well.

Meredith Woerner said during the week that the CW was all teen dramas and cheesy action, and I asked which category SPN and Nikita fell into, but I didn't get a response. Someone else pointed out that they also air Hart of Dixie and Ringer, which is, what, 40% of their output. I get sadface when I see people with a professional voice making the shortsighted who-cares-if-it's-accurate-since-it's-pithy generalisations that, well, are ghettoising our show, amongst others.

Did find a couple Nikita fans in the exchange, though, which is always nice.


§ ita § - Jan 15, 2012 7:54:35 am PST #23601 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I both love this and am unmoved by it. Her art is weird that way.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 15, 2012 8:17:59 am PST #23602 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It's always... static? Superb in a technical sense (far beyond the level of photo-realism I can generally manage when trying), but missing a sense of life that less proficient artists often put in their work.


Amy - Jan 15, 2012 8:21:32 am PST #23603 of 30002
Because books.

Her stuff to me always looks like she's really good at copying from a source, and adding a sort of soft rose-colored-glasses thing on top. But there's nothing of *her* in her art at all.


§ ita § - Jan 15, 2012 8:25:51 am PST #23604 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But there's nothing of *her* in her art at all.

Yeah, that's exactly it for me. I don't even feel the interpretation a good photographer accomplishes. It just feels like transliteration to me.

I mean, I'd kill little children for her skills at likenesses, etc (especially where my head is right now with my stuff), but who is euclase? At least she's stepping outside of just reproducing photos--now she can help with photos that never happened, but that's about it.

I much prefer a petite madame who is really good at likenesses, but less than euclase, but everything she does stinks of mood.


Amy - Jan 15, 2012 8:35:06 am PST #23605 of 30002
Because books.

everything she does stinks of mood

I'm not sure what you mean by that.


§ ita § - Jan 15, 2012 9:15:30 am PST #23606 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's not just Vaseline on the lens, it's emotive.

Also, I find that the further euclase strays from straight photo refs into her own composition, the dodgier it gets. Proportions, etc, seem to be off. She's awesome at replicating, not so much at creating.


Amy - Jan 15, 2012 11:55:26 am PST #23607 of 30002
Because books.

In that one of the weeChesters it doesn't bother me, but I like a little bit of atmosphere in the background.

My favorite is still the chick whose name I can never remember. LaLaLettie on Tumblr now. Oh, cafe de labeill! Or something like that.


§ ita § - Jan 15, 2012 11:57:46 am PST #23608 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not complaining about petite madame, to be clear--it's a strength that euclase doesn't have.

I think cafe de labeill is mad talented, but it seems that she's divorced herself pretty clearly from the show and any characterisations or accurate resemblances. She appeals to me with her sweetness and shippiness, but it's so rare she does badass Dean or Sam or Cas, and I miss that.

Yes, I demand everything of everyone. Why not?