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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Jan 15, 2012 8:21:32 am PST #23603 of 30002
Because books.

Her stuff to me always looks like she's really good at copying from a source, and adding a sort of soft rose-colored-glasses thing on top. But there's nothing of *her* in her art at all.


§ ita § - Jan 15, 2012 8:25:51 am PST #23604 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But there's nothing of *her* in her art at all.

Yeah, that's exactly it for me. I don't even feel the interpretation a good photographer accomplishes. It just feels like transliteration to me.

I mean, I'd kill little children for her skills at likenesses, etc (especially where my head is right now with my stuff), but who is euclase? At least she's stepping outside of just reproducing photos--now she can help with photos that never happened, but that's about it.

I much prefer a petite madame who is really good at likenesses, but less than euclase, but everything she does stinks of mood.


Amy - Jan 15, 2012 8:35:06 am PST #23605 of 30002
Because books.

everything she does stinks of mood

I'm not sure what you mean by that.


§ ita § - Jan 15, 2012 9:15:30 am PST #23606 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's not just Vaseline on the lens, it's emotive.

Also, I find that the further euclase strays from straight photo refs into her own composition, the dodgier it gets. Proportions, etc, seem to be off. She's awesome at replicating, not so much at creating.


Amy - Jan 15, 2012 11:55:26 am PST #23607 of 30002
Because books.

In that one of the weeChesters it doesn't bother me, but I like a little bit of atmosphere in the background.

My favorite is still the chick whose name I can never remember. LaLaLettie on Tumblr now. Oh, cafe de labeill! Or something like that.


§ ita § - Jan 15, 2012 11:57:46 am PST #23608 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not complaining about petite madame, to be clear--it's a strength that euclase doesn't have.

I think cafe de labeill is mad talented, but it seems that she's divorced herself pretty clearly from the show and any characterisations or accurate resemblances. She appeals to me with her sweetness and shippiness, but it's so rare she does badass Dean or Sam or Cas, and I miss that.

Yes, I demand everything of everyone. Why not?


Amy - Jan 15, 2012 12:04:07 pm PST #23609 of 30002
Because books.

Yeah, I know, it's all sort of cartoony sweetness now. But I just love her style. The art nouveau stuff is gorgeous.


§ ita § - Jan 15, 2012 12:06:20 pm PST #23610 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Who the fuck decides to make a niche out of SPN and Art Nouveau? Seriously, who has that idea? Yet--it's fucking amazing. The way she can go on and on with a fabric detailing blows my mind.


Amy - Jan 15, 2012 12:18:41 pm PST #23611 of 30002
Because books.

It's completely weird, but I love it. I guess it's the same thing, for me, as people who want to write, like, an AU of Hitchhiker's Guide and put Sam and Dean in it. Or, like, make them pirates or something.


§ ita § - Jan 15, 2012 1:00:00 pm PST #23612 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think you can do AUs or fusions with varying level of success. The current Hitchhiker's D/C fusion I'm reading has nothing to do with most of SPN. Good Gabriel, decent 2014!Cas, no relevance to our Dean or Sam (the paranoid cyborg???).

It's a really pretty fusion, but increasingly I feel it has nothing to do with the show I love, and that it's celebrating Jensen and Misha teenaged faces than anything else.

I know, I've been guilty of some definite schmoop in my time, but I think to think there's Dean and Cas in it, other than just my struggles for likeness.

She goes back to the show sometimes, but it's pretty clear she's found a happy place away from some of the messy parts of it.