Fred: So you don't worry that it's possible for someone to send out a biological or electronic trigger that effectively overrides your own sense of ideals and values and replaces them with an alternative coercive agenda that reduces you to a mindless meat puppet? Shopkeeper: Wow. People used to think that I was paranoid.

'Time Bomb'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Marcia - Dec 05, 2011 3:56:00 pm PST #23225 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

Anne and I were pondering the fate of Bobby today - will he go with the reaper or will he stay back and try to help the boys, thinking he can be a benevolent spirit?

We were also wondering how much did John's behaviors towards his children trigger Bobby's memories of his own father. He said once he'd almost unloaded some buckshot into John's ass.

In other meanderings, I've long held the thought that there was something more significant about Bobby Singer and Singer Salvage than what has been shown. Bobby had a rather remarkable propensity for many languages and was highly resourceful, not to mention the amulet he gave Wee!Sam many years ago which had a rather pointed story attached to it.

At the same time, God has been AWOL.

This reminds me on some level about the movie Dogma, with the angels Bartleby and Loki, and God trapped in the body of a coma patient. I'm rather intrigued by the idea that perhaps Bobby was an unknowing vessel for God.


Juliebird - Dec 05, 2011 4:03:57 pm PST #23226 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Speaking of vessels for God, the latest reaper gave me heebie jeebies in that he looked a lot like Chuck. For a split second there I thought he was going to take Bobby immedieately unto his bosom. Or something.


Juliebird - Dec 05, 2011 4:03:57 pm PST #23227 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Speaking of vessels for God, the latest reaper gave me heebie jeebies in that he looked a lot like Chuck. For a split second there I thought he was going to take Bobby immediately unto his bosom. Or something.


Typo Boy - Dec 05, 2011 4:05:35 pm PST #23228 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I'm rather intrigued by the idea that perhaps Bobby was an unknowing vessel for God.

I doubt it will ever be canon, but it would make on hell of a fic.


Amy - Dec 05, 2011 4:08:01 pm PST #23229 of 30002
Because books.

But why would God take a vessel and then just ... hang out?

I'm pretty comfortable with Chuck as God, the way it was written.


Marcia - Dec 05, 2011 4:23:46 pm PST #23230 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

But why would God take a vessel and then just ... hang out?

I think because that's almost New Testament/Jesus stuff.

I like the idea of Chuck as God, too, but his status as deity was never stated conclusively.


Anne W. - Dec 05, 2011 4:26:09 pm PST #23231 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

how much did John's behaviors towards his children trigger Bobby's memories of his own father

I can really, really see that.

Also, I kind of want to re-watch Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid in light of what we learned about Bobby and Karen's falling out. It adds a whole extra layer of 'ouch' to Bobby's not wanting to let her go.


tiggy - Dec 05, 2011 4:29:15 pm PST #23232 of 30002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Speaking of vessels for God, the latest reaper gave me heebie jeebies in that he looked a lot like Chuck.

and they were both in the show, Felicity.


JenP - Dec 05, 2011 4:30:30 pm PST #23233 of 30002

Now that I've digested it, I think it's time for him to go, and doing it at the very end of the episode really would have been the way to go, without the drawn-out fake suspense.

Yeah, I agree.

I was wondering about Chuck and the reaper, too -- it wasn't the same actor, right? I couldn't really tell, and I haven't looked anything up yet. But if you told me they were the same person, I'd believe you.

OH! And I loved Dean when he said to Dick, "You're either laughing because you're scared, or you're laughing because you're stupid." Well, I mean, I really loved that whole scene and thought Jensen totally brought it with Dean's utter conviction that he was going to end Dick. No bravado, just raw determination. Be afraid, Dick. Be very afraid.


Amy - Dec 05, 2011 4:31:23 pm PST #23234 of 30002
Because books.

I didn't think the reaper looked like Chuck at all, but he did look incredibly familiar.

I think because that's almost New Testament/Jesus stuff.

Can you explain what you mean? I'm not following.