But Becky is a rapist. How dare you trivialise women raping men?

Did she actually do anything? Or just drug him and hang out with him? I don't know what technically has to happen to fit the definition. I was imagining him bespelled, but the offense being that Becky kept him as a platonic husband. My SPN verse is very strange.

I finally got to watch and I loved that episode. I love all those 4th wall episodes. In the beginning I was imagining the first few scenes as post Jared/Jen fic conversations between he and Jensen. And sort of the end too where Dean talks about protecting Sam from groupies.

And plus, who wouldn't want a fantasy marriage to Sam? He would be an awesome husband to show off to your friends.

I loved the scenes with Crowley, I liked seeing the boys fight demons again, and I liked them back together again.

I could totally see criticism of making your fans out to be psycho losers, but I don't really see myself as a loser or anyone else that I know that's a fan. And honestly, who hasn't thought that life would be so much better if you could just make someone you care about see the world your way. I had a whole thing with that this week. I didn't actually drug anyone to make it happen, but I don't think most people - fans or otherwise - would.

She said something along the lines of "we haven't consummated because true love waits." So she did not actually rape him, though I guess she was working up her nerve.

The thing that I like about the 4th wall episode is that the fans are never actually losers. They may be eccentric, internet savvy and focused on details, but they are people that I would hang out with. I've never been offended by SHOW's portrayal of fans. The fans usually end up saving the day or looking at the BOYS as if the BOYS are crazy. If everyone involved with the show can still see the humanity and heart in the most "eccentric and focused" fans, then I love them all the more. Because honestly, with Jensen's past stalker(s), I wouldn't have blamed him from saying, "hell no, I'm not doing this episode."

As soon as Becky appeared though, I knew there would be rabid fangirls. Get over it. We all have a little Becky in us.

She's not a rapist--she's a woman that thought a man was a bit in love with her and drugged and kindapped. There was no evidence of sexaul assault,

I'm parrotting outside vitriol.

I'm betting the vitriol is pretty severe.

Oh, yeah. I'm hiding in here.

That's my disconnect right there -- when people were talking about the fourth wall, I was like, "What fourth wall?" But I stopped seeing Becky as Everyfan a long time ago. She's a character to me, so I didn't see vitriol against the fans. I saw Becky getting a little too attached to a bad plan in order to impress her high school class.

I would like to know how she knew he'd be in Vegas, if the crossroads demon wasn't helping her find him (he said he was surprised to see she'd married a Winchester, right?), and how they managed the drive from Vegas to Delaware without having to drug him again, although maybe we're supposed to assume that happened.

I guess I don't know why this is any more offensive than what Gary did. He was going to KILL Dean while wearing Sam's body, and did all kinds of things in Sam's body that Sam didn't consent to (even if he wasn't there to protest or know).

I thought it was sort of sweetly ridiculous that Becky was going to all this trouble and yet hadn't tried to sleep with Sam.

Do I want to know where the racist stuff is coming from?

Oh, yeah. I'm hiding in here.

That sounds like a wise, wise choice.