Wesley: Illyria can be...difficult. Testing her might be hard without getting someone seriously hurt. Angel: We'll make Spike do it. Wesley: Good.

'Underneath'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Oct 08, 2011 10:36:09 am PDT #22180 of 30002
Because books.

Dean is also horror and most popular movies, and more TV than Sam.

Sam is more academic. I can't think of a lot of culturally geeky stuff about him, actually. Although he would have known Mount Doom from the books, and Dean from the movies, I think.


JenP - Oct 08, 2011 12:45:15 pm PDT #22181 of 30002

I sort of hope it is that because Bobby felt off in a few moments with no apparent reason why.

That said, he and Dean watching the telenovela was awesome and funny.

I'm with you on both, Cass. I loved young Amy, too, Beverly et al. Colin is fabulous as young Sam. I don't really get practically why Dean didn't kill the kid if he killed the mother. The kid will have to kill to survive now as he is a bit young to get a job as a mortuary assistant. Better to either kill them both or leave them both alive. Dean's off his game!


Morgana - Oct 08, 2011 1:01:34 pm PDT #22182 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

It occurred to me that from the kid's perspective, Dean has now become the YED: the monster who appeared out of nowhere to kill his mother and threaten him. And Dean, who had made saving other peoples' families his job description for pretty much his entire life, has acted in a way that looks as though he's becoming the very thing he hated the most. Justified or not.


Theresa - Oct 08, 2011 1:19:40 pm PDT #22183 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I think that is right on the nose, Morgana. I was thinking last night, that to Amy's son, Dean is an evil monster. Dean could justify what he did, but so could Amy.

Eta:

Kim woulda been proud.

Bev got me a little misty there.


SuziQ - Oct 08, 2011 1:36:02 pm PDT #22184 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Morgana - nice insight.

Is there any meta about Jensen directing anywhere? I don't want spoilers for future stuff, but would be interested in reading any discussions.


Juliebird - Oct 08, 2011 3:18:37 pm PDT #22185 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I have to share this vid by Loki: [link] "Haust"

Sam-centric. The end gave me chills.


Theresa - Oct 08, 2011 5:36:52 pm PDT #22186 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Wow. That really showcases Jared. Not Rory's Dean anymore.


Marcia - Oct 09, 2011 5:37:33 am PDT #22187 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

Interesting reference to Mistress Magda at the credit card company.

I'm not concerned about Bobby's being off. His home base was destroyed, he needed to round up copies of his library, and he essentially told Dean they needed to focus on higher priorities than Sam's "checking out" -- they needed intel. That's where I think Bobby is coming from.

If Bobby were a leviathan, it doesn't make sense to spend three weeks in a cabin with the Leviathans' Most Wanted and then leave them.


§ ita § - Oct 09, 2011 6:27:43 am PDT #22188 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If Bobby were a Leviathan, Edgar wouldn't have needed a heads up from the credit card leviathan about their location.


Stephanie - Oct 09, 2011 11:26:02 am PDT #22189 of 30002
Trust my rage

I know I was talking about Dean and Sam and trust before, but I just read this on io9 and it says what I wanted to say, but better...

As soon as Sam is looking the other way, Dean sneaks off to knife Amy in the heart. Not only does this seem cruelly unnecessary, but it's also a direct betrayal of Sam. With his actions, Dean seems to be saying that all monsters deserve killing, no matter what the circumstances. As always in these situations, Dean is a complete hypocrite: his own brother is a partial monster with demon blood in his veins whom Dean has spared a billion times; and Dean himself has been Satan's henchman. So why does Dean think he can judge another monster for killing to save her son's life? Because he's Dean. And this is the side of Dean it's really hard for anybody to like.

[some Leviathan stuff]

But an even bigger "what the hell Dean" moment was just the overall betrayal of Sam, and his unwillingness to believe that Sam's mind could be on the mend just the way Dean's leg is. Why has Dean gone from believing in Sam's ability to heal — in an incredibly moving scene last week — to being a total douche about it? Some of the stuff he says to Bobby about Sam being broken forever sounds a lot like what Lucifer Dean said when Sam was hallucinating. I think we've come full circle back to the relationship the brothers had when Sam was drinking demon blood with Ruby and Dean was freaking the hell out.

I'm really not looking forward to what happens when Sam finds out Dean is sneaking around behind his back.