You know me! I'm like, "Go school! It's your birthday!" Or something to that effect.

Willow ,'Empty Places'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


§ ita § - Aug 09, 2011 9:57:54 am PDT #20866 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The horse wasn't named Samuel--it was named Sampson. But Dean called it Sammy the whole way through. I...just...you could leave him out, you know? Great art, though--dag_prime.

How do you *misuse* a Dutch Angle?


Juliebird - Aug 09, 2011 10:07:44 am PDT #20867 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

By staring too intently up someone's nose? I didn't find Cas menacing with that angle (maybe it wasn't so much the camera angle as it was the flat lighting), more, silly looking.


§ ita § - Aug 09, 2011 10:55:07 am PDT #20868 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've never met a camera angle that could turn me off an entire hour of TV if I liked the episode, but I'm not that sensitive.

Sometimes I feel people that write one of the Winchesters as an addict doesn't take into consideration that we know Dean's an alcoholic, we had a season of Sam's blood habit, and indications that John abused the bottle himself. They're a family of substance abusers. So often John's a prick, or Sam's an asshole, or Dean's a suffering martyr of addiction--it never seems to all be handled in perspective of all the male Winchesters.

Not that I enjoy moralistic addiction stories anyway. But given that I read mostly D/C, Dean's too often the hero dealing with a father or brother, or if it's gedry, his abuse is painted in a very different way from how the show handles it.

Me no likey.


Juliebird - Aug 09, 2011 11:02:11 am PDT #20869 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'm being mostly facetious by blaming my not rewatching on a camera angle, but it's my take-away. Awesome badass painful episode, but the final image is one I can't take seriously.

Superhero BB: Sam hasn't shown back up yet, nor Gabriel, and I wonder what was the point, as I'm almost done.

Aw crap, spoke too soon.


§ ita § - Aug 09, 2011 11:33:32 am PDT #20870 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, the "probie" thing? Dude, stop lifting from NCIS in the middle of my SPN fic. It's distracting.

Then again, I didn't mind the Regency story with a sudden Neal Caffrey reference.

eta: OMG, I'm having an emotional day, but I sure did not like the twist of the superhero story. It had all better turn out differently.


Juliebird - Aug 09, 2011 11:49:32 am PDT #20871 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I didn't like the story in the end. Too many things, even with the worst averted.

Just clicked out of another fic a couple paragraphs in for the throwaway thought of Dean's "silly women".


§ ita § - Aug 09, 2011 11:54:25 am PDT #20872 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The fic has a sort of middle of the road ending. Not schmoop, not angst, not HEA. It's kinda...flat. Also, a whole unexplored background infrastructure.

However, it was hot where it needed to be hot.


Juliebird - Aug 09, 2011 12:08:06 pm PDT #20873 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

It was indeed hot.

But between Sam still being a fuck up drug addict who gets to spend the rest of his days in prison for the criminally insane (or a mental hospital for the criminally insane, whichever), and Dean having been a, what was it, butt battery? and so many things not really explained or explored.

a whole unexplored background infrastructure

Yeah, that.

I didn't mind that the ending wasn't happy with a bow on it. It just offended me in lots of little ways, even though some of the ideas were so close to what I would imagine for an AU where there are RL consequences, and to what I'd like out of a superhero AU.

I also don't get the wanting of a different body because it's more powerful, except that it's not powerful enough to stop the bad guy in the old/current body.

I did like the parts where Dean was breaking down as he began to suspect Cas, and how he wasn't all AWESOME WINGS!.

I'm still annoyed by Gabriel's presence. Although, well done for me not realizing that Sam and Gabe were the guns in the first act. That might just be me being lazy, though.


Amy - Aug 09, 2011 12:14:21 pm PDT #20874 of 30002
Because books.

I'm in the mood to make a D/C playlist again, since I never did it the first time it occurred to me.


§ ita § - Aug 09, 2011 12:15:26 pm PDT #20875 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My problem with the "happiness" of the outcome is that Sam suffered where Sam didn't deserve suffering. In a D/C story, that leaves me with a bitter taste in my mouth. In a Sam-centric story, then maybe it would have been worked up for more impact.

And, seriously, I think you need to deal with you being an assbattery for your boyfriend who everyone thinks is abusing you. They kinda skimmed over that.

Also, it's "another think coming". I don't care about migrating usage.