River: 1001. 1002. Simon: River... River: Shh. I'm counting between the lightning and the thunder to see if the storm is coming or going. .1005

'The Message'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Amy - Jul 26, 2011 6:08:51 am PDT #20727 of 30002
Because books.

I couldn't fall asleep last night, and I started thinking about all the parallels between Buffy and Supernatural.

They both include the loss of a parent, and a surprise! sibling.

They both include a surrogate parent/mentor figure.

They both have the protagonist befriending and/or working with demons.

They both had a natural endpoint in S5, with a major death.

And they both came back anyway, with a character changed by "death".

Both S6s included a very surprising relationship -- Buffy and Spike, and Dean and Lisa.

Both S6s end with a sort of death/rebirth -- Buffy underground with Dawn (epiphany time!) and emerging from a grave, and Cas losing his angel self and being reborn as a god.

It makes me nervous about S7, because even S7 Buffy has some good moments and a couple of episodes I loved, it was for me such a huge disappointment, I almost never rewatch it.


Stephanie - Jul 26, 2011 6:20:33 am PDT #20728 of 30002
Trust my rage

I was posting/ thinking about similarities the other day. Besides the trip to hell thing, I think the shows just have a similar feel. I'll have to think about exactly why. But I was just thinking today that the shows sort of clicked for me in parallel ways.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 26, 2011 12:02:04 pm PDT #20729 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Fighting monsters via a combo of research and badassedness, with angst being heaped on the pile season by season. There's a lot of similarity in the basic premises.


Juliebird - Jul 26, 2011 1:47:18 pm PDT #20730 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

ita, I'm reading dizbil.

It's hilarious. I can't --maybe it's heatstroke --I feel kinda bad, cuz maybe it's a second language thing-- god, it's just beyond grammar. I suck at grammar. But between Castiel's cock being inside Dean's (OMG: extreme sounding!) and their asses slapping together (what are they *doing*?! is this physically possible?!!!) and poor Dean being pressurized by his family (I envisioned a hot air balloon with bowlegs), I am beside myself.

Buffy: I can see the similarities when it's laid out as words in print, but I don't feel it. Maybe in some of the lighter eps where they bring out more of the humour? But otherwise, Show has more X-Files vibes in look, tone, and the way it deals with humour. And also that it revolves more insularly around two central characters, and not a sprawling team.


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2011 2:03:58 pm PDT #20731 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My LJ note for dizbil says "English not a strong point". But I was reading not logged in, so I didn't have the benefit of the asterisk, so I read it by mistake. Oh, dear.

I think you should take your mind off it by looking again at the PG D/C from V-S: Worm. It's adorbs.


Juliebird - Jul 26, 2011 2:09:53 pm PDT #20732 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I came to the conclusion that it's not the language that's a problem, but the lack of a strong hold on reality.

I saw that. So wrong. "It's a snake!" I think my favorite part is how atrocious the art is, when there's also entries like "A Poor Substitute for God".


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2011 2:18:47 pm PDT #20733 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I like both her styles of stuff, but I've seen people bitching that she's punking fandom by being two people. They don't know much about artists.


Juliebird - Jul 26, 2011 2:28:42 pm PDT #20734 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

How is she punking them within the same journal?!

There's the serious stuff, and then there's the play. I get that. and the play is fun. There's no rule that says that because you can do something well that you have to do it at that level all the time. And I respect the play stuff more because I know there's a slant of talent not being tapped, but the play has a different kind of talent behind it. Especially the sense of fun and succinct humour and dealing with panels and punchlines.


Marcia - Jul 26, 2011 4:44:23 pm PDT #20735 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

tiggy, here's a link to the Jared/Zach Q&A: [link]


Morgana - Jul 26, 2011 5:55:33 pm PDT #20736 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Here's Jared's Nerd HQ session (HQ even) in one piece.