I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

Angel ,'Sleeper'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - May 04, 2009 2:34:01 pm PDT #2060 of 30002
Because books.

Oh god, Perkins is evil, too.

"I KNEW it!" t /Chandler


Anne W. - May 04, 2009 2:34:15 pm PDT #2061 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

if we're entering the last act, which is the hypothetical plan, Bobby is more valuable dead than alive.

So, he's the Mercutio of the piece, then? (Except instead of "a plague on both your houses," we get a heartfelt "idjits," I suppose.)

In other news, Perkins is evil. EVIL.


Lee - May 04, 2009 2:36:20 pm PDT #2062 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

What? I didn't make you read the whitefont.


P.M. Marc - May 04, 2009 2:42:28 pm PDT #2063 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

So, he's the Mercutio of the piece, then? (Except instead of "a plague on both your houses," we get a heartfelt "idjits," I suppose.)

One of their Mercutio Chorus! Which, at this point, they kind of have enough for. The Winchesters burn through allies like whoa.


Anne W. - May 04, 2009 2:48:14 pm PDT #2064 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

One of their Mercutio Chorus! Which, at this point, they kind of have enough for.

True. Pamela fits the role a little too well.

(Trying to think if there's a better Shakespearean counterpart for Bobby...)

On a different topic, I'm still mulling over Castiel's new attitude towards Dean. Given how paranoid he was about being overheard while in the relative privacy of Dean's dream*, were we really seeing the genuine result of some heavenly re-programming, or was that a case of Castiel trying to keep Dean at a safe distance?

* I found it heartbreaking that Dean was dreaming of peacefully doing not much of anything.


Polter-Cow - May 04, 2009 2:52:57 pm PDT #2065 of 30002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

(Except instead of "a plague on both your houses," we get a heartfelt "idjits," I suppose.)

Hee!


Beverly - May 04, 2009 2:58:48 pm PDT #2066 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

A flistie mentioned that Dean's dream of fishing came after finding out that John took Adam fishing. Fishing never seemed the kind of thing Dean would be interested in--unless it was The Deadliest Catch sort of thing.


Theresa - May 04, 2009 3:33:18 pm PDT #2067 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Oh that is an awesome thought Bev. It would also be a way to show that they lost a brother they never knew they had and even though they naturally won't talk about it, it did have some effect.

Also...

Plei and Perkins are Evil and so is Anne for her alternative version. Jilli is the only one who speaks the truth.

Remember the Friends episode where Joey was reading Little Women and they would put the book in the freezer when it would get to a part that was upsetting him like Beth's death? I wonder if I can just tape the next two weeks and put the tivo in the freezer?


Atropa - May 04, 2009 4:46:04 pm PDT #2068 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

For the sake of the narrative, I completely understand why Bobby's death is necessary. I really do. I just don't WANT it to happen.

Also, yes, Perkins is evil like an evil thing.


Consuela - May 04, 2009 5:04:38 pm PDT #2069 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Okay, since I brought up Bobby's death: I see Bobby's death as narratively necessary because at the end of every season the Winchesters have to lose something.

S1: John died (Dean told he might have to kill Sam)

S2: Sam died (Dean made the deal with Lilith)

S3: Dean died (Sam started working with Ruby)

What's left to lose but Bobby? You can't kill either one of the boys again with the same emotional impact. But if Bobby dies, he's not coming back: that might be one of the things Adam's death told us. In the end, it's only going to be Sam and Dean.

Which also plays into the whole coming-of-age theme of the show: they have to learn to stand on their own, do their own work, make their own choices--so long as Bobby's there fixing things for them, they're not full adults under the terms of the narrative.

Additionally, if they're really playing out this addiction storyline for Sam, he's not yet at the point of agreeing that the cost of the addiction is too high compared to what he's getting out of it. In other words, he's not going to agree to go off the stuff, not without going further down, hitting bottom. And he's going to be feeling utterly betrayed by Dean and Bobby.

So one way to have Sam hit bottom is to have him kill someone who matters (i.e., not the nameless possession victim he murdered last week), and as above, it can't be Dean. Who's left but Bobby? It doesn't have to be on purpose, could be kind of accidental, but I think that's what is going to happen.

Anyway. That's my thinking. I don't want to see Bobby die, but more and more I'm not seeing any way out of it.